Subject: Unpublished Discourse About Weapons
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 22:55:28
From: "Gaurishankar Agrawal"
To: AM-GLOBAL
Baba
"Toma'ke ceyechi a'mi jiivaner prati pale..." (P.S. 2106)
Purport:
Baba, I want You in each and every sphere of my life-- all the time, every moment. Baba, please come in every honey-filled seed vessel of my hundred petal mental lotus. Baba, whatever beautiful things I have, whatever good things I have-- I am offering everything unto You. Baba, please grace me by coming with Your most attractive form.
O' my dearmost, Your everything is so very beautiful. You are that most resplendent divine Entity-- perfectly effulgent. Just as the shining moon does not have any black spots; similarly, O' Parama Purusa, You are resplendent and blemishless-- perfectly pristine & pure. Baba, please shower Your causeless grace on me; please remove my fear and shyness from my unit mind. Please take away all those impurities that are accumulated in my mental plate. Baba, please grace me with the eternal gift of devotion.
Baba, I do not have any worldly desire-- just I want Your closeness. That is why I go on searching You while doing all kinds of works, O' my Lord of Lords. Baba, in each and every moment of my life, in all my deeds and in all my thoughts I want Your Presence-- I want Your grace...
Note: This posting is based on an unpublished Hindi discourse from Bombay where Baba talks about who should have weapons.
Namaskar,
Nuclear weapons, proliferation, and disarmament are hot topics these days. The recent nuclear security summit in Washington addressed these issues and more.
Certain leading imperialistic nations are eager to put a halt to nuclear proliferation, especially the US. However, these power-hungry, materialistic nations are not for universal welfare or global peace. They just want to keep nuclear weaponry exclusively for themselves. That is their interest.
As Ananda Margiis, we should clearly understand Baba's guidelines and policies with regards to weapons and disarmament. Baba furthermore reveals the hidden agenda of those nations.
Let us also remember that there are all kinds of weapons such as chemical warfare, cyber-weapons, and more. So Baba's stated policy is for the weapons of today and tomorrow.
Finally, weapons are not only for external battles but also for internal ones. Thus every individual must be armed with all kinds of sentient weaponry (yama and niyama, Prout, kiirtan, sadhana etc) so they can overcome degrading tendencies of mind and reach to Parama Purusa.
As a brief overview, Baba's guideline is that moralists should have weapons in order to protect the people and deter anti-social elements, whereas terrorists and rogue parties should be condemned and their might and power should be snatched away.
Unfortunately, today the opposite is true. Moralists are not united and immoralists have banded together and gained access to all kinds of weapons for their various schemes. Thus bad people have weapons and good people do not. Needless to say this situation needs to be reversed.
In this complex, battle-torn world, we should arm ourselves with Baba's divine teachings. We should know His stand on weapons.
Here is a summary of Baba's discourse about weapons delivered in the 1960's in Bombay.
Baba talks about how at the very beginning of human history, individuals would quarrel and physically fight by hitting, scratching, grinning, grunting, grimacing, biting and clawing. That was the socially acceptable manner to settle disputes. Everybody fought using these same basic techniques.
Then one day, one party got an idea. This alpha party discovered that they could attack their chosen target from afar by throwing fist-sized mounds of dirt, or dirt bombs. With this discovery, immediately the alpha party had a distinct advantage over his enemies, i.e the beta party. The alpha party could easily vanquish their foes.
In response the beta party became outraged, fearing that so many would get hurt and destroyed by these flying dirt bombs. The beta party exclaimed, "Come out and fight in a civilized way and meet me face to face - claw and punch. Do not resort to this dangerous method of throwing dirt bombs from your hidden position. Everyone will get killed."
But the alpha party paid no mind to the pleas and logic of the beta team. And the alpha party continued to attack others using their dirt bomb technique. With no other recourse, the beta party decided that they too must use this dirt bomb approach. So they did research, study and practice and soon they were also using dirt bombs for their main way of fighting.
With dirt bombs flying in both directions, the alpha party became disturbed and thought that they had lost their advantage. So they looked around and found that rocks were harder and more potent than dirt bombs. The alpha team then began throwing rocks which easily bloodied and hurt other people.
Once again, the beta party became horrified by this increased level of intensity by the alpha team. The beta person demanded, "Do not throw rocks; they are too hard and dangerous. Too many people are getting hurt. This will destroy society. Only throw dirt bombs - that is our agreed upon fighting strategy. Give up this practice of throwing rocks. There should be disarmament or dis-rock-ament, i.e. no throwing rocks - no one should do this."
But beta's pleas fell on deaf ears. The alpha party was very satisfied with the effectiveness of rock throwing. In turn, the beta team began investigating and experimenting with throwing rocks and soon began employing that technique as well.
In this way the level of fighting increased. All this Baba relays in His unpublished discourse. But it does not stop there. Baba continues to explain the history of weaponry in human civilisation.
When the alpha party saw that team beta was also using rocks, then the alpha team looked around and came up with a new technique in order to gain an advantage. The alpha team began using big animals such as horses and elephants to attack their foes.
This was quite alarming for the beta party. They were rattled and complained bitterly that the alpha team would destroy all of humanity and kill everyone using this new method. The beta team pleaded that animals not be used for fighting as it was too dangerous and creating too many deaths.
Once again, the alpha party did not listen and they enjoyed their fighting supremacy. The beta party did their related research, trained animals and fighters, and also began using animals in their warfare. The two warring parties were again on equal ground.
Next, the alpha party invented spears and other sharp throwing devices. The beta team vigorously objected claiming that these spears were too dangerous - everyone will be killed and entire countries destroyed. The alpha party did not pay heed. With no other recourse, the beta team began developing their own spears and sharp fighting tools.
In this see-saw manner, the level of fighting increased.
The alpha team then invented the bow and arrow, and again the beta team exclaimed that this was too harmful and the alpha team should be civilised in their fighting. The alpha party ignored their plea so the beta party created their own bow and arrow.
Then around four hundred + years ago, explosive weapons came into vogue like guns and canons. The alpha team enjoyed unparalleled superiority and the beta team was aghast by the wreckage of such weapons, and petitioned that such weapons be banned. But instead the beta team was defeated and destroyed.
At this point in His Bombay discourse, Baba tells the real history of how King Babur invaded Delhi from the Middle East and at the battle of Panipat, King Babur used his advanced weaponry to defeat Abraham Lodi, the Sultan of Delhi. Actually Abraham Lodi had a much bigger army but because Babur's troops had canons, firearms, and other weapons they were victorious. Abraham Lodi did not have canons - he only had standard, conventional weapons of the day as well as lots of foot soliders and animals. But because he did not have firearms his party suffered big losses and he was defeated.
Then Baba tells that this is the way history works. Those who invent new weapons are victorious.
Baba then asks this rhetorical question: Do you want to be in the alpha party or beta party?
The margiis responded: Alpha party.
Baba replied: Yes, never be in the beta party - always be in the alpha team.
Baba continues to explain that weapons should always be in hands of sadvipras and that such moralists should have the latest weapons. Indeed sadvipras should be ever vigilant to create more refined and powerful weapons in order to save the society. Side by side, never allow weapons to fall in the hands of the wrong people. Terrorists, imperialists, and other anti-social elements must not be armed with strong weapons.
Baba furthermore guides us that as society and civilisation develop, new types of problems come to the fore. For example, internet crime has now become an issue. In response, moralists must always have superior weapons to counteract and solve problems caused by rogue elements. Baba's mandate is that moralists must have ultra-modern weapons in the external and internal worlds.
Our external weapons include bombs, internet security, scanners and so much more. And our internal weapons include Prout, kiirtan, yama and niyama and sadhana.
If we look at the world history over the course of the 20th century, it becomes quite clear how having newer weapons is so important.
For instance, during World War II, the US dropped the atom bomb on Japan because the US knew that Japan did not have that weapon. Thus Japan suffered terribly. In contrast, during the cold war, the US did not drop the atom bomb on the USSR because the US knew that the Russians also had the bomb. In the latter case there was no actual war - just the cold war.
In a similar fashion, India and Pakistan have fought three wars since 1947, but there has not been a war since each got nuclear weapons. The teaching from all this is that wars happen when one party feels they can crush their weaker opponent without suffering much damage.
More recently, we see how Iraq was attacked because there was no fear that they could retaliate with strong weapons, whereas the western powers did not attack North Korea because there was the very real threat that North Korea would use their nuclear arsenal.
In the more distant past, India was negligent in developing weapons which is why the Indian subcontinent was often overrun by invaders - either moguls or Britishers.
That is the history and the teaching we should all get is that the weak get destroyed and ransacked by belligerent parties. Having the latest weapons maintains the peace.
In AM, our main point is that the moralists should always have the latest weapons because good people should never suffer at the hands of those exploiters, imperialists or terrorists. We never advocate that terrorists should also have weapons. Rather top weapons should be in the hands of moralists alone.
In order to bring world peace, moralists must have the best weapons and terrorists and imperialists must not be allowed to have weapons at all. But now the opposite is the case. Good citizens do not haven weapons while and terrorists have huge weapon supplies.
With regards to the recent summit in Washington, it is not a new thing. Always those who have been in power and possessed top weapons petition to not allow others to get weapons. Because they want to maintain their dominance. Same is the case with the US today. And that is the psychology since the prehistoric era: Always those with might have been keen to not allow others to get weapons.
All in all it looks like the race for arms is a dangerous game, but the truth is that it is only dangerous if weapons are only in the hands of negative people. To establish peace then, all moralists must play this game of armament in order to save humanity - there is no other option. Then there will be peace and security.
Finally, armament does not just mean guns and other external weapons.
Enemies exist externally and internally (in the form of negative propensities), and in both cases ultra-modern weapons are needed. Those following religious dogmas or idol worship will not be able to free their mind from narrow-mindedness and the baser propensities.
Thus Baba's entire discourse serves as an analogy for spiritual growth and development. The aim is for every sadhaka to wage a war against all depraving tendencies of mind and reach to Parama Purusa. One must defeat all the internal enemies - i.e. kama (lust), krodha (anger), lobha (greed), mada (vanity), moha (blind attachment), matsarya (envy), and all other crude propensities.
In that case, ritualistic worship is totally impotent, that is the equivalent of fighting one's inner battles with antiquated weapons like sticks and stones. Such weapons are impotent. Stronger weapons are needed, i.e. AM sadhana.
Ananda Marga sadhana is the very logical and ultra-modern weapon that will lead one to His alter. Just as in the material plane, moralists must have the latest and greatest weapons in the form of bombs and lasers in order to maintain social order and keep the peace; similarly in the inner world, one must be armed with neo-humanism, Prout, kiirtan, sadhana, yama and niyama, and His ever-present grace. Then one is sure to get victory. That is what Baba is telling us in His unpublished discourse and a very similar idea is expressed in this following guideline.
Baba says, "In this fight against avidya shakti one must have sufficient weapons. You know, a soldier requires weapons, and sa'dhana' is a fight. In your internal sphere, that is, in your mind, you should have ten weapons. Those ten weapons are five yama and five niyama [moral principles]. And similarly, while fighting against evil forces in this crude physicality, you should have ultra-modern physical weapons also. Those who want disarmament and those who want to ban the atom bomb are not friends of human society. They do not want to accelerate the speed of human society. Rather they want to retard its progress. Weapons you must have, but you should have control over your body and mind. There must not be any abuse or misuse of your weapons. Now, in this progress, that is, in the realm of intuitionalism, you should have ten internal weapons – yama and niyama – [for] your progress in sa'dhana'." (AV-34)
Namaskar,
Gaurishankar
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 22:55:28
From: "Gaurishankar Agrawal"
Baba
"Toma'ke ceyechi a'mi jiivaner prati pale..." (P.S. 2106)
Purport:
Baba, I want You in each and every sphere of my life-- all the time, every moment. Baba, please come in every honey-filled seed vessel of my hundred petal mental lotus. Baba, whatever beautiful things I have, whatever good things I have-- I am offering everything unto You. Baba, please grace me by coming with Your most attractive form.
O' my dearmost, Your everything is so very beautiful. You are that most resplendent divine Entity-- perfectly effulgent. Just as the shining moon does not have any black spots; similarly, O' Parama Purusa, You are resplendent and blemishless-- perfectly pristine & pure. Baba, please shower Your causeless grace on me; please remove my fear and shyness from my unit mind. Please take away all those impurities that are accumulated in my mental plate. Baba, please grace me with the eternal gift of devotion.
Baba, I do not have any worldly desire-- just I want Your closeness. That is why I go on searching You while doing all kinds of works, O' my Lord of Lords. Baba, in each and every moment of my life, in all my deeds and in all my thoughts I want Your Presence-- I want Your grace...
== UNPUBLISHED DISCOURSE ABOUT WEAPONS ==
Note: This posting is based on an unpublished Hindi discourse from Bombay where Baba talks about who should have weapons.
Namaskar,
Nuclear weapons, proliferation, and disarmament are hot topics these days. The recent nuclear security summit in Washington addressed these issues and more.
Certain leading imperialistic nations are eager to put a halt to nuclear proliferation, especially the US. However, these power-hungry, materialistic nations are not for universal welfare or global peace. They just want to keep nuclear weaponry exclusively for themselves. That is their interest.
As Ananda Margiis, we should clearly understand Baba's guidelines and policies with regards to weapons and disarmament. Baba furthermore reveals the hidden agenda of those nations.
Let us also remember that there are all kinds of weapons such as chemical warfare, cyber-weapons, and more. So Baba's stated policy is for the weapons of today and tomorrow.
Finally, weapons are not only for external battles but also for internal ones. Thus every individual must be armed with all kinds of sentient weaponry (yama and niyama, Prout, kiirtan, sadhana etc) so they can overcome degrading tendencies of mind and reach to Parama Purusa.
BABA'S MANDATE IN BRIEF
As a brief overview, Baba's guideline is that moralists should have weapons in order to protect the people and deter anti-social elements, whereas terrorists and rogue parties should be condemned and their might and power should be snatched away.
Unfortunately, today the opposite is true. Moralists are not united and immoralists have banded together and gained access to all kinds of weapons for their various schemes. Thus bad people have weapons and good people do not. Needless to say this situation needs to be reversed.
In this complex, battle-torn world, we should arm ourselves with Baba's divine teachings. We should know His stand on weapons.
THE ESSENCE OF THAT UNPUBLISHED DISCOURSE
Here is a summary of Baba's discourse about weapons delivered in the 1960's in Bombay.
Baba talks about how at the very beginning of human history, individuals would quarrel and physically fight by hitting, scratching, grinning, grunting, grimacing, biting and clawing. That was the socially acceptable manner to settle disputes. Everybody fought using these same basic techniques.
Then one day, one party got an idea. This alpha party discovered that they could attack their chosen target from afar by throwing fist-sized mounds of dirt, or dirt bombs. With this discovery, immediately the alpha party had a distinct advantage over his enemies, i.e the beta party. The alpha party could easily vanquish their foes.
In response the beta party became outraged, fearing that so many would get hurt and destroyed by these flying dirt bombs. The beta party exclaimed, "Come out and fight in a civilized way and meet me face to face - claw and punch. Do not resort to this dangerous method of throwing dirt bombs from your hidden position. Everyone will get killed."
But the alpha party paid no mind to the pleas and logic of the beta team. And the alpha party continued to attack others using their dirt bomb technique. With no other recourse, the beta party decided that they too must use this dirt bomb approach. So they did research, study and practice and soon they were also using dirt bombs for their main way of fighting.
With dirt bombs flying in both directions, the alpha party became disturbed and thought that they had lost their advantage. So they looked around and found that rocks were harder and more potent than dirt bombs. The alpha team then began throwing rocks which easily bloodied and hurt other people.
Once again, the beta party became horrified by this increased level of intensity by the alpha team. The beta person demanded, "Do not throw rocks; they are too hard and dangerous. Too many people are getting hurt. This will destroy society. Only throw dirt bombs - that is our agreed upon fighting strategy. Give up this practice of throwing rocks. There should be disarmament or dis-rock-ament, i.e. no throwing rocks - no one should do this."
But beta's pleas fell on deaf ears. The alpha party was very satisfied with the effectiveness of rock throwing. In turn, the beta team began investigating and experimenting with throwing rocks and soon began employing that technique as well.
In this way the level of fighting increased. All this Baba relays in His unpublished discourse. But it does not stop there. Baba continues to explain the history of weaponry in human civilisation.
When the alpha party saw that team beta was also using rocks, then the alpha team looked around and came up with a new technique in order to gain an advantage. The alpha team began using big animals such as horses and elephants to attack their foes.
This was quite alarming for the beta party. They were rattled and complained bitterly that the alpha team would destroy all of humanity and kill everyone using this new method. The beta team pleaded that animals not be used for fighting as it was too dangerous and creating too many deaths.
Once again, the alpha party did not listen and they enjoyed their fighting supremacy. The beta party did their related research, trained animals and fighters, and also began using animals in their warfare. The two warring parties were again on equal ground.
Next, the alpha party invented spears and other sharp throwing devices. The beta team vigorously objected claiming that these spears were too dangerous - everyone will be killed and entire countries destroyed. The alpha party did not pay heed. With no other recourse, the beta team began developing their own spears and sharp fighting tools.
In this see-saw manner, the level of fighting increased.
The alpha team then invented the bow and arrow, and again the beta team exclaimed that this was too harmful and the alpha team should be civilised in their fighting. The alpha party ignored their plea so the beta party created their own bow and arrow.
Then around four hundred + years ago, explosive weapons came into vogue like guns and canons. The alpha team enjoyed unparalleled superiority and the beta team was aghast by the wreckage of such weapons, and petitioned that such weapons be banned. But instead the beta team was defeated and destroyed.
BABA TELLS A STORY
At this point in His Bombay discourse, Baba tells the real history of how King Babur invaded Delhi from the Middle East and at the battle of Panipat, King Babur used his advanced weaponry to defeat Abraham Lodi, the Sultan of Delhi. Actually Abraham Lodi had a much bigger army but because Babur's troops had canons, firearms, and other weapons they were victorious. Abraham Lodi did not have canons - he only had standard, conventional weapons of the day as well as lots of foot soliders and animals. But because he did not have firearms his party suffered big losses and he was defeated.
Then Baba tells that this is the way history works. Those who invent new weapons are victorious.
BABA'S QUESTION
Baba then asks this rhetorical question: Do you want to be in the alpha party or beta party?
The margiis responded: Alpha party.
Baba replied: Yes, never be in the beta party - always be in the alpha team.
Baba continues to explain that weapons should always be in hands of sadvipras and that such moralists should have the latest weapons. Indeed sadvipras should be ever vigilant to create more refined and powerful weapons in order to save the society. Side by side, never allow weapons to fall in the hands of the wrong people. Terrorists, imperialists, and other anti-social elements must not be armed with strong weapons.
Baba furthermore guides us that as society and civilisation develop, new types of problems come to the fore. For example, internet crime has now become an issue. In response, moralists must always have superior weapons to counteract and solve problems caused by rogue elements. Baba's mandate is that moralists must have ultra-modern weapons in the external and internal worlds.
Our external weapons include bombs, internet security, scanners and so much more. And our internal weapons include Prout, kiirtan, yama and niyama and sadhana.
WORLD SCENE
If we look at the world history over the course of the 20th century, it becomes quite clear how having newer weapons is so important.
For instance, during World War II, the US dropped the atom bomb on Japan because the US knew that Japan did not have that weapon. Thus Japan suffered terribly. In contrast, during the cold war, the US did not drop the atom bomb on the USSR because the US knew that the Russians also had the bomb. In the latter case there was no actual war - just the cold war.
In a similar fashion, India and Pakistan have fought three wars since 1947, but there has not been a war since each got nuclear weapons. The teaching from all this is that wars happen when one party feels they can crush their weaker opponent without suffering much damage.
More recently, we see how Iraq was attacked because there was no fear that they could retaliate with strong weapons, whereas the western powers did not attack North Korea because there was the very real threat that North Korea would use their nuclear arsenal.
In the more distant past, India was negligent in developing weapons which is why the Indian subcontinent was often overrun by invaders - either moguls or Britishers.
That is the history and the teaching we should all get is that the weak get destroyed and ransacked by belligerent parties. Having the latest weapons maintains the peace.
In AM, our main point is that the moralists should always have the latest weapons because good people should never suffer at the hands of those exploiters, imperialists or terrorists. We never advocate that terrorists should also have weapons. Rather top weapons should be in the hands of moralists alone.
In order to bring world peace, moralists must have the best weapons and terrorists and imperialists must not be allowed to have weapons at all. But now the opposite is the case. Good citizens do not haven weapons while and terrorists have huge weapon supplies.
With regards to the recent summit in Washington, it is not a new thing. Always those who have been in power and possessed top weapons petition to not allow others to get weapons. Because they want to maintain their dominance. Same is the case with the US today. And that is the psychology since the prehistoric era: Always those with might have been keen to not allow others to get weapons.
All in all it looks like the race for arms is a dangerous game, but the truth is that it is only dangerous if weapons are only in the hands of negative people. To establish peace then, all moralists must play this game of armament in order to save humanity - there is no other option. Then there will be peace and security.
SPIRITUAL IMPORT
Finally, armament does not just mean guns and other external weapons.
Enemies exist externally and internally (in the form of negative propensities), and in both cases ultra-modern weapons are needed. Those following religious dogmas or idol worship will not be able to free their mind from narrow-mindedness and the baser propensities.
Thus Baba's entire discourse serves as an analogy for spiritual growth and development. The aim is for every sadhaka to wage a war against all depraving tendencies of mind and reach to Parama Purusa. One must defeat all the internal enemies - i.e. kama (lust), krodha (anger), lobha (greed), mada (vanity), moha (blind attachment), matsarya (envy), and all other crude propensities.
In that case, ritualistic worship is totally impotent, that is the equivalent of fighting one's inner battles with antiquated weapons like sticks and stones. Such weapons are impotent. Stronger weapons are needed, i.e. AM sadhana.
BABA'S BLESSING
Ananda Marga sadhana is the very logical and ultra-modern weapon that will lead one to His alter. Just as in the material plane, moralists must have the latest and greatest weapons in the form of bombs and lasers in order to maintain social order and keep the peace; similarly in the inner world, one must be armed with neo-humanism, Prout, kiirtan, sadhana, yama and niyama, and His ever-present grace. Then one is sure to get victory. That is what Baba is telling us in His unpublished discourse and a very similar idea is expressed in this following guideline.
Baba says, "In this fight against avidya shakti one must have sufficient weapons. You know, a soldier requires weapons, and sa'dhana' is a fight. In your internal sphere, that is, in your mind, you should have ten weapons. Those ten weapons are five yama and five niyama [moral principles]. And similarly, while fighting against evil forces in this crude physicality, you should have ultra-modern physical weapons also. Those who want disarmament and those who want to ban the atom bomb are not friends of human society. They do not want to accelerate the speed of human society. Rather they want to retard its progress. Weapons you must have, but you should have control over your body and mind. There must not be any abuse or misuse of your weapons. Now, in this progress, that is, in the realm of intuitionalism, you should have ten internal weapons – yama and niyama – [for] your progress in sa'dhana'." (AV-34)
Namaskar,
Gaurishankar
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Serious Matter
Baba says, "The system of education prevailing today was formulated or evolved long ago, mainly with a view to suit the needs of the capitalist class. For the last three to four thousand years, the same type of education is being imparted. The main purpose behind this sort of educational system is to create persons with a slavish mentality to fulfill need of those capitalist exploiters. This sort of education is fundamentally defective. It is certain that this type of education which serves the capitalists' interests is not at all suitable. This sort of education creates obstacles in the evolution of humanity. We have to thoroughly revamp the entire educational system. A new educational system must evolve to produce sadvipras." (11/29/70, transcribed from cassette)
Note: Those who are bragging about the standard of their education should know what type & what category of knowledge they have. In this regard, we should ponder Guru's above guideline.
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Serious Matter
Baba says, "The system of education prevailing today was formulated or evolved long ago, mainly with a view to suit the needs of the capitalist class. For the last three to four thousand years, the same type of education is being imparted. The main purpose behind this sort of educational system is to create persons with a slavish mentality to fulfill need of those capitalist exploiters. This sort of education is fundamentally defective. It is certain that this type of education which serves the capitalists' interests is not at all suitable. This sort of education creates obstacles in the evolution of humanity. We have to thoroughly revamp the entire educational system. A new educational system must evolve to produce sadvipras." (11/29/70, transcribed from cassette)
Note: Those who are bragging about the standard of their education should know what type & what category of knowledge they have. In this regard, we should ponder Guru's above guideline.
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