Story: When Logic Fails, Hypocrite Gurus...

Date: 30 Mar 2011 06:22:54
From: "Indrajit  Deva"
To: am-global@earthlink.net
Subject:  Story: When Logic Fails, Hypocrite Gurus...

Baba

     == STORY: WHEN LOGIC FAILS, HYPOCRITE GURUS DO LIKE THIS ==

Namaskar,
We should all be critically aware about this piece of news / story that is floating around.

"As a result of continuous telephonic
pressures from Ranchi and also the ultimate legal threatening by Ranchi,
Kimshuk Da almost made up his mind to retrace his steps and disembark
himself from the arduous task ahead. But during meditation that morning,
Baba lovingly said to him: “When I wanted to adopt you as my laukik
son, you did not think for a moment and unhesitatingly left your
birth-parents in a fizzy. And when now Dharma needs you, the Dharmika
people want to ‘adopt’ you as their leader, why this hesitation?"

This type of thing has happened in all the religions. The preachers of Christian dogma, Islamic dogma, and today's terrorists etc have all done the same thing. When they knew well that their words and ideas were garbage and that the public would not accept their false notions, then such religious preachers put forth the pitch that, "These are the words of God and I am merely the messenger". This is the way that the dogmatic religions have functioned. Almost all dogmatic religions did like this. In the past and still today, such dogmatic preachers and fake gurus did not have the courage to claim those words as their own, so they said that they got such words directly from God. But no longer can rational people accept such dogma.

Baba says, "You know that religions are based on dogmas...They have always declared, “I am not speaking with my own voice, I am speaking with the voice of heaven. I am the messenger of God. Don’t take these words to be mine – they are the message of God, and so you will have to accept them. You must not question whether they are right or wrong; to question is a sin. If you question, your tongue will fall off!” They have tightened the noose of dogma around the people, so that they fear to take a single step over the line, thinking, “How terrible! If I do so I will be burnt in hellfire for eternity!"" (NH-LOI, Disc: 7)

When those fake gurus and religious opportunists have no logic or reasoning, then they proclaim that, "My God told me to do like this." That is their special trick and now the handlers of Kinshukji are resorting to this same strategy.

Here I am not giving my judgment whether this PP election should have happened or not. I am only commenting on this particular type of claim and how this dogma was injected into some margiis' minds. This type of thing will pave the way towards hell. No sane person should do like this.

The very idea that Baba came in Kinshukji's dream and told like this runs 100% contrary to Baba's written scriptures. No authority should resort to such a dogmatic and silly notion. All past and current dogmatic religious leaders have been exploiting the society with this very tool. We must not appreiciate this type of proclamation.

If we do not oppose this type of irrational approach, AM will surely turn into dogma. If this is allowed to go on, then tomorrow someone will claim: "Baba has come in my dhyana and he told that from now on avadhutas should get married." Or he will tell that, "Baba told me that meat-eating should be allowed then more and more people will join AM." Such opportunists   will start this nasty method and then it will be very easy to do all kinds of nonsense.

Rudrananda is an A-grade hypocrite but even then he could not reach this top height of hypocrisy. Rudrananda never claimed that Baba told him to do what he is doing. And those criminal Dadas who were involved in the murder of Abhipremananda in Ananda Nagar, even they did not proclaim that, "Baba told us to kill him."

Attached below is a top-notch reply to this situation. Dada Abhidevananda has done a wonderful job in attacking this dogma. He has nipped this dogma in the bud. So I appreciate his letter very much and have pasted it here for all to see.

If we do not oppose this dogma, then every Ram, Shyam, Tom, Dick and Harry will say, "Baba came and told me xyz and now we have to follow it - or else!". If we allow this type of defective mentality to grow and fester then what about Baba's teachings. Should they just be ignored and overruled. 

Here is another example from Baba where He is warning against such type of nefarious activity.

Baba says, "In the Middle Ages some selfish people proclaimed to the backward masses, “I am the messenger of God. Whatever I say is a revelation from God,” just to inject fear and terror into people’s minds. Was it beneficial for humanity to have such doctrines imposed on them in this way?" (HS-1)

Namaskar,
Indrajit


Note: Now please read this letter below from Dada Abhidevananda.

Subject: Kinshuk's Sadhana?
Date:Mon, 28 Mar 2011 07:08:33 +0200
From: Acarya Abhidevananda Avadhuta
Reply-To: margiimail@googlegroups.com
Organization:  Ananda Marga
To:  Ananda Marga
CC: MargiiMail

BABA

Namaskar all,

Re: Kinshuk's Sadhana

______________________________________________________________________
There are some people, particularly vocal revolutionaries, who glibly
speak many high-sounding words. Through these high-sounding words,
they sway the weak and sensitive parts of the mind. For instance, they
say: "My native land is like this, like that"... "We are such-and-such
race"... "We are a race of heroes and heroines." This is how they
sentimentalize people. And, caught up in these geo-sentiments, the
people become devoid of rationality and also shout to the same tune.
At that time, they do not realize that their shouting is inspired by
false information.

Awakened Conscience (Discourse 9)
Published in: The Liberation of Intellect: Neohumanism
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Another story told by Kinshuk to his followers purports to be a
meeting with Baba during Kinshuk's sadhana. The following story is
highly reminiscent of the stories that Muhammad used to tell his
followers - a combination of humble brag and manipulative sentiments.

______________________________________________________________________
*LIILA KATHA - NUMERO QUATRO*

As a result of continuous telephonic pressures from Ranchi and also
the ultimate legal threatening by Ranchi, Kimshuk Da almost made up
his mind to retrace his steps and disembark himself from the arduous
task ahead. But during meditation that morning, Baba lovingly said to
him: "When I wanted to adopt you as my laukik son, you did not think
for a moment and unhesitatingly left your birth-parents in a fizzy.
And when now Dharma needs you, the Dharmika people want to '*adopt*'
you as their leader, why this hesitation?
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Pretending that it is Baba speaking, Kinshuk once again reminds his
followers that Baba selected him as His legal heir. And, as Kinshuk
tells it (pretending that it is Baba's words), Kinshuk was kind enough
to accept Baba's desire... in the froth of a carbonated drink. :)

Then this treacherous fellow announces that Baba declared his
undisciplined, anti-ideological and anti-organizational actions to be
dharma. And not only that, Kinshuk tells us that Baba also described
those who follow him - none of them Hindi and most of them completely
unknown to Kinshuk - as the "dharmika people". What a hypocrite! What
a nasty chap!

--

Abhidevananda Avadhuta