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Timeless from the Beginning

Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 22:30:18 -0000 To: Subject: Timeless from the Beginning From: RB_MAURYA@ecectronic... Baba "Bha'lo ba'siyachi, toma're ceyechi a'ma'r maner mainjus'a'y..." (P.S. 3185) Purport: Baba, You are my most close; You are my dear most. I deeply love You with all my heart. I always yearn for You in my mental abode. Baba, I want Your closeness. Why are You remaining distant-- & not coming close by my side. You are not understanding the pain of my heart nor my hope to always have You. At a distance You go on smiling sweetly with Your charming smile. Why do You do like this. By this way You pull my heart; my heart gets taken away. Baba, all the sweetness of this universe is filled with Your nectar. But You are hiding Yourself within Your divine liila of darkness and effulgence. To understand You, to realise You is very difficult. Only by Your grace can one understand You. Age after age, so many yogis have been ensconced in Your shravan, manan, niddhidhyasana, japa, kiirtan, and dhyan, but without Your divine grace nobody can realise You. In each and every atom, proton, electron, and neutron as well as in the stars, galaxies, and nebulae-- all are singing Your glory, greatness, and magnanimity. They are spreading the love of Your causeless grace. Baba, I always long for You; I want Your proximity in the abode of my mind & heart. I want to have You. Baba, You are my nearmost & dearmost...
Namaskar, Every margii knows that Baba's discourses are eternal truth-- apta vakya. Baba says, "A'pta vakya or absolute knowledge is true and beneficial for all people in all ages and in all countries...The books in Ananda Marga philosophy are all absolute knowledge." (PNS-18, chap 3) But some jinanis in their confused state of mind think that Baba's ideas and discourses are not eternal-- That He modifies things from one moment to the next. Means such jinanis think in their dogmatic way that Baba's discourses are not apta vakya, i.e. that His discourses become old in the due course. Or they think that sometimes Baba changed His discourses by giving new updates etc just as mundane, ordinary philosophers do in their writings. These types of dogmas various jinanis have in their mind. This following letter is the reply to such delirium that certain jinanis have.
All are aware that Baba's everything is pre-planned. All the philosophy, irrespective of when & what time He delivered the speech, that is all part of His eternal guideline. And all the ideas that Baba propagated, all those various things He started giving from the very beginning-- in seed form. For example, those not aware may say that Microvita philosophy was introduced in December of 1986, but it is not like that. Because in very beginning, in the 1950's even, in old discourses Baba refers to the 7 types of microvita devayonis. And this next point is moving in the same direction.
Since the time Ananda Marga started, since then the theory of neo-humanism has been propagated. No doubt the name was not neo-humanism at that time, but the whole philosophy was embedded within those early discourses. So no one can claim that neo-humanism got started for the first time in 1982. It is not like that. Then there is also this example. In Patna, 1980 January, Baba has given the discourse 'liberation of intellect', i.e. 'Buddhi ki mukti'. But in official terms, everybody is aware that the neo-humanism theory was first given in 1982. When in fact the seed form teachings were given decades earlier and the initial elaboration of His of neo-humanism philosophy was given in 1980. But never was there any change to any of the ideas of neo-humanism. In all these above cases it is just like one baby was born and then 6 months or one year later then the baby naming ceremony happened. But that does not mean that prior to the naming ceremony then the baby did not exist.
Indeed countless examples can be given on this very point. It is related with all of Baba's philosophical teachings-- the entire gamut of what He has given. Take the case of Prabhat Samgiita. Actually since His very childhood He started giving Prabhat Samgiita-- just that time the name was different. But then after the name Prabhat Samgiita was given decades later, then Baba included those songs which He wrote in His childhood into His collection of Prabhat Samgiita.
In contrast, many people do things in a mundane, calculated manner: today they propagate some theory and then tomorrow they see some defect in their earlier concepts and they will attempt to revamp their initial defective theory. But in the case of Baba, His teachings are divine- eternal truth, Apta vakya. So His teachings are not affected by the change in time, space, and person.
That is why Baba never needed to update His philosophy. All the things that He started in 1955, that very same perfect philosophy He propagated up till 1990. He just gave more and more discourses to illustrate those initial points which were in seed form. There was no need for Baba to update anything because all His teachings are based on eternal truth. So those jinanis who dogmatically think that Baba updated or changed His philosophy, they are wrong. They need to study more carefully then they will reach the conclusion that since the very beginning, everything is the same type of ideas. Gradually He explained more and more in His various discourses and for that He has given new and new names and titles. But the ideas are the same.
In opposite fashion, Islam has its own way limited dogmatic ways of operating. Such that devotional songs and kiirtan etc are not allowed. So if they introduce something like that, then it will be said that they updated their philosophy. But in our AM since the beginning, kiirtan, bhajan, dances, and devotional chanting were approved, allowed, & encouraged. So margiis were writing and chanting bhajans in their own way and they were singing and dancing in their own style-- haphazard way. Then in due course, Baba graciously gave one methodical way of doing kiirtan. Likewise later on paincajanya was also introduced. So before the introduction of paincajanya in 1982 or the introduction of kiirtan in 1970, these things were present in seed form since the beginning. Here is another key point.
Since 1955 the point of Ista was very significant. If you see the Subhasita Samgraha discourses, there is the story of the mythological monkey devotee Hanuman. And Baba illustrated this so many times and He introduced the shloka: 'Shriinathe...'. And this very teaching is the main guiding shloka related with pointed devotion to Ista. And this very teaching Baba has given in various discourses since the very beginning. And directly & indirectly He raised this point again and again until finally in 1970 Sixteen points was made and one of the points was--strictness in Ista. Typically, here is one way of human beings' understanding-- that without the problems, human beings do not like to think and understand about the importance of Guru's teachings on various categories. So when some serious negative things happen then people realise that this thing should be taken care. Just like Baba used to guide about the strictness of Ista point since the beginning because many margiis those who took initiation in their old age they did not like to give up their old allegiance to different gods and goddesses. So one side they were doing sadhana and other side they were doing idol worship, taking bath in river Ganges, going to temples, doing their marriages in their caste, and following rituals of Hindu religions. So Baba started teaching them since the very beginning about strictness in Ista, one pointed devotion. In the past people were addressing Baba as Lord Vishnu, or Lord Rama, Lord Krishna, Lord Shiva, What way they were ideating on different gods and goddesses when they came in contact with Baba they saw that very form in Baba. Because they have deep devotion in those deities and gradually that very devotion channelised towards Baba. The main reason for this problem was that they took initiation in their late age that time. And this same thing happens these days when people take initiation in their late age. What worships or rituals they do they do not like to give up. Sadhana and other dogmatic rituals go side by side. 5 minute of idol worship of goddess Durga and 5 minute sadhana; 5-10 Hanuman chalisa to please monkey god; and 5 minutes kiirtan. This type of pseudo-half-baked or immature margiis you will find everywhere. But the main problem came in 1970 was when huge number of fake Wts became defectors and they stated doing a lobby against Baba. Then people understood the importance and significance of this point- strictness in Ista. And that was the opportune time to introduce this point in 16 points and that is what Baba did.
The conclusion is that Baba used to teach these points since long back and when the dire need arose then everyone understood that, 'Yes this is needed'. Otherwise not. It is same thing like one may leave one's door open every day but if one day thief comes and takes costly things then people will be alert to close the door. Without that talking about alertness has no use in their mind. Here in India you see that without one time getting pickpocketed people cannot become alert about pickpockets. So Baba's whole philosophy in seed form was there since 1955, but gradually situation came and rule was implemented.
Baba never modified his philosophy, from the beginning it was same. He never modified or upgraded. here is another example: male acaryas should not initiate any females and vice versa. That was created in 1970, but this rule was since the beginning. Because in CC part 1 Baba has given the rule that relations between males and females should be in a very reserved way. And as long as they will not unnecessary gossip their dealings will be respectful. So prior to 1970's WTs were initiating females no problem. if strict in CC rules (giving females motherly status) but in 1970, some degenerated WTs started doing all kinds of nonsense things with opposite sex. And that also with their diiksa bhaganiis. So then there was no other way than to introduce rule that male WTs should not initiate females. and vice versa. The central idea is that the rule was there since the very beginning but later on it got implemented forcefully in a deliberate manner.
So those who are blind and half-baked pundit they wrongly conclude that some or other time Baba upgraded His philosophy or modified it. Jinanis think like this due to their lack of deeper understanding. Better they should read more, study more, do more sadhana, and then they will understand. The beauty of spirituality is that it is based on veracity, eternal truth. And Baba's all teachings are apta vakya. So there is no question of modifying them because AM ideology is eternally perfect. To understand these things more elaboration is needed, that is a different matter. But modification is not needed.
Here in conclusion is a blessing from Baba: Baba says, "Utilizing the vibrations created for eternal time by Shrii Shrii Anandamurtiji through janusparsha and varabhaya mudras, take yourself and the entire universe ahead along the path of all-round welfare. Omn Shanti." (CC_1) Namaskar, Rambabu Note: Here below is another guideline signifying the perfect teachings of AM Baba says: "Dharmashastra is to establish the human beings in the stable, exalted position of spiritual ideation; it must be practical, rational, infallible, and universal. It must be based on deep eternal truth. It must be aptavakya. A scripture is a guiding entity. The Subhasita Samgraha series of books are the scripture of Ananda Marga ideology." (APH-4, 'Our Spiritual Treatise')
****************************************** Purpose of Marriage
Baba says, "'Be like Shiva and Parvati, go on doing your worldly duties along with your psychic and spiritual pursuits, be the assets of the entire civilisation, and by your service the whole society should be benefited." Note: The hidden meaning behind Baba's blessing is that in Ananda Marga marriage is not for carnal pleasures and sensual satisfaction. Rather is entails a serious commitment that has a deep significance. The marriage system in AM is for building up one human society worthy of its name.

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