From: "Shantatma Deva"
To: am-global@earthlink.net
Subject: Diseased
Date: Fri 17 Jun 2011 21:38:48 +0530
Baba
Note: This posting is related with the writings of one brother on a recent thread from one of our AM email forums.
Namaskar,
When a person suffers from stomach cancer then they are unable to digest even simple food. In that case, whenever they eat, a huge amount of putrid gas is formed, which ultimately gets released in the form of flatulence. All because their disease will not allow them to properly digest that simple food.
Under such circumstances, one should take proper care. One should not pass that gas in the dharmacakra hall or in any other sentient atmosphere. That is not the way; they should not pollute such environments.
Best is that such a person should seek medical attention and keep oneself under treatment until they are cured. One should not relieve oneself in public. They should recognise their disease and have it treated.
Here I am talking about a disease in the psycho-spiritual sphere. This has appeared in one AM email forum. It is sad that one person has written like this:
"saying MY GURU is God!! or My Guru [Baba Shrii Shrii Anandamurtiji] Has Declared himself as God. Too much ego there."
This person is outraged with Baba's teachings of Ananda Sutram and Caryacarya which are cited below.
We all know Baba is the Taraka Brahma, i.e. God incarnate. This fact every true Ananda Margii understands well. Baba has told this in His discourses and every sadhaka feels this in their heart. This is the basic, minimum concept every sadhaka must have to practice Ananda Marga tantra, dhyana etc. Without this, one cannot do sadhana; one will just waste their time.
For new margiis, these following two references may help:
"Purport: The common point bridging together the empirical state of Saguńa and the metempirical state of Nirguńa is called Táraka Brahma [Baba]. Táraka Brahma appears in saguńa [embodied] form as Mahásambhúti [Baba]." (Ananda Sutram, 1-25)
Baba says, "The one formless, beginningless and infinite Parama Brahma (Supreme Consciousness) is the only entity to be attained by living beings – That alone is Jagat Guru (the Supreme preceptor) [Baba], That alone has revealed Brahmavidyá (intuitional science) to us through the medium of the name and form of Anandamúrtijii [Baba]. Unit beings must be made to appreciate Its majesty. (Caryacarya-2, Sadhana, Pt #1a)
These two simple quotes essentially state that Baba has come as Parama Purusa to guide humans as a Guru and teach spiritual science.
Yet, when someone says that, "Baba is Parama Purusa", then this person becomes reacted. In response he starts spreading all kinds of foul writings on our AM email forums. That is what we practically see going on.
"saying MY GURU is God!! or My Guru [Baba Shrii Shrii Anandamurtiji] Has Declared himself as God. Too much ego there."
Here he is polluting the atmosphere because of his disease. This is not something healthy or beneficial for his own spirtual progress - not is this helpful for new margiis reading thiss they may get confused.
This sadhaka himself is blaming his Guru Shrii Shrii Anandamurtiji as being as egoistic. because Baba proclaims himself in Ananda Sutram and Caryacarya as being the the Divine Entity.
I feel sad and have pity on this person. He has been connected with AM for decades, but this basic, fundamental point he could not get. I only hope that Baba will grace him. May Baba open his eyes.
Namaskar,
Shantatma
The only problem is that diseased person get a little bit reacted - nothing more.
The problem is that this person is passing his crude understanding in public - all across our AM forums. But this is not the place for his irrational and anti-devotional ramblings.
If some non-margii says these types of things that is totally different. It is the same as if a jackal is howling then it is fine because people do not expect that the jackal should talk. But if a human being is howling then people will try and help and bring him to the psychiatric hospital.
Best is that he should seek treatment. This person should say to Baba, "O, my Dearmost Baba, due to my terrible limitation I am unable to properly understand Your divine words, please grace me so that I may realise Your True Self." This should be the approach. Or this person can go to an acarya for help.
Unfortunately, this person does not realise his own problem. So he is "passing his smell" on the public stage. It is quite foul.
If someone tries to spit on the sun at high noon then the sun will not get harmed rather that spit will fall directly on the face of that person. Similarly, if anyone tries to abuse Baba then Baba will not get harmed in any way, rather the person is himself harmed as he will not progress in sadhana. That is the concern.
To: am-global@earthlink.net
Subject: Diseased
Date: Fri 17 Jun 2011 21:38:48 +0530
Baba
Note: This posting is related with the writings of one brother on a recent thread from one of our AM email forums.
== DISEASED ==
Namaskar,
When a person suffers from stomach cancer then they are unable to digest even simple food. In that case, whenever they eat, a huge amount of putrid gas is formed, which ultimately gets released in the form of flatulence. All because their disease will not allow them to properly digest that simple food.
Under such circumstances, one should take proper care. One should not pass that gas in the dharmacakra hall or in any other sentient atmosphere. That is not the way; they should not pollute such environments.
Best is that such a person should seek medical attention and keep oneself under treatment until they are cured. One should not relieve oneself in public. They should recognise their disease and have it treated.
Here I am talking about a disease in the psycho-spiritual sphere. This has appeared in one AM email forum. It is sad that one person has written like this:
"saying MY GURU is God!! or My Guru [Baba Shrii Shrii Anandamurtiji] Has Declared himself as God. Too much ego there."
This person is outraged with Baba's teachings of Ananda Sutram and Caryacarya which are cited below.
We all know Baba is the Taraka Brahma, i.e. God incarnate. This fact every true Ananda Margii understands well. Baba has told this in His discourses and every sadhaka feels this in their heart. This is the basic, minimum concept every sadhaka must have to practice Ananda Marga tantra, dhyana etc. Without this, one cannot do sadhana; one will just waste their time.
For new margiis, these following two references may help:
1-25. Bhávah bhávátiitayoh setuh Tárakabrahma.
"Purport: The common point bridging together the empirical state of Saguńa and the metempirical state of Nirguńa is called Táraka Brahma [Baba]. Táraka Brahma appears in saguńa [embodied] form as Mahásambhúti [Baba]." (Ananda Sutram, 1-25)
Baba says, "The one formless, beginningless and infinite Parama Brahma (Supreme Consciousness) is the only entity to be attained by living beings – That alone is Jagat Guru (the Supreme preceptor) [Baba], That alone has revealed Brahmavidyá (intuitional science) to us through the medium of the name and form of Anandamúrtijii [Baba]. Unit beings must be made to appreciate Its majesty. (Caryacarya-2, Sadhana, Pt #1a)
These two simple quotes essentially state that Baba has come as Parama Purusa to guide humans as a Guru and teach spiritual science.
Yet, when someone says that, "Baba is Parama Purusa", then this person becomes reacted. In response he starts spreading all kinds of foul writings on our AM email forums. That is what we practically see going on.
"saying MY GURU is God!! or My Guru [Baba Shrii Shrii Anandamurtiji] Has Declared himself as God. Too much ego there."
Here he is polluting the atmosphere because of his disease. This is not something healthy or beneficial for his own spirtual progress - not is this helpful for new margiis reading thiss they may get confused.
This sadhaka himself is blaming his Guru Shrii Shrii Anandamurtiji as being as egoistic. because Baba proclaims himself in Ananda Sutram and Caryacarya as being the the Divine Entity.
I feel sad and have pity on this person. He has been connected with AM for decades, but this basic, fundamental point he could not get. I only hope that Baba will grace him. May Baba open his eyes.
Namaskar,
Shantatma
Note 1: INTRODUCING ONESELF
When a human being is living amongst animals then that person should not introduce himself as an animal, just to please those pigs, squirrels, owls and dogs. Rather one should say that, "I am a human being."
Similarly, Baba being the Taraka Brahma should not come on this earth and introduce Himself as an ordinary mortal - that would not be proper. So Baba has beautifully graced us by telling us that He is Parama Purusa.
Similarly, Baba being the Taraka Brahma should not come on this earth and introduce Himself as an ordinary mortal - that would not be proper. So Baba has beautifully graced us by telling us that He is Parama Purusa.
The only problem is that diseased person get a little bit reacted - nothing more.
Note 2: MORE ABOUT THE ABOVE SCENE
The problem is that this person is passing his crude understanding in public - all across our AM forums. But this is not the place for his irrational and anti-devotional ramblings.
If some non-margii says these types of things that is totally different. It is the same as if a jackal is howling then it is fine because people do not expect that the jackal should talk. But if a human being is howling then people will try and help and bring him to the psychiatric hospital.
Best is that he should seek treatment. This person should say to Baba, "O, my Dearmost Baba, due to my terrible limitation I am unable to properly understand Your divine words, please grace me so that I may realise Your True Self." This should be the approach. Or this person can go to an acarya for help.
Unfortunately, this person does not realise his own problem. So he is "passing his smell" on the public stage. It is quite foul.
Note 3: WHO GETS AFFECTED BY ALL THIS
If someone tries to spit on the sun at high noon then the sun will not get harmed rather that spit will fall directly on the face of that person. Similarly, if anyone tries to abuse Baba then Baba will not get harmed in any way, rather the person is himself harmed as he will not progress in sadhana. That is the concern.
Note 4: WHO IS THIS PERSON
Now you probably want to know who is the person writing against Guru on the public platform and spreading all kinds of poisonous emails. If this were a non-margii I would simply ignore the matter. But this person has invested himself in AM yet without this basic feeling he will not progress in the psycho-spiritual realm. That is my worry. In Tantra this is the basic requirement: To surrender to Guru and accept His guideline.
Everyone should know who is speaking against Ista (Baba) & Adarsha (Baba's teachings). And the answer is that this person is Prakash Laufer of NY sector. Prakash is the one who cannot digest Baba's teachings and in reaction is writing offensive emails on our AM forums.
Please help cure brother Prakash of his disease. He can be reached at:
Everyone should know who is speaking against Ista (Baba) & Adarsha (Baba's teachings). And the answer is that this person is Prakash Laufer of NY sector. Prakash is the one who cannot digest Baba's teachings and in reaction is writing offensive emails on our AM forums.
Please help cure brother Prakash of his disease. He can be reached at:
I am worried about his spiritual progress because when any Ananda Margii does not have basic faith on his Ista then their sadhana is futile.
PRABHAT SAMGIITA
"Campak vane dakhina' pavane..." (PS 40)
Purport:
Baba, You have presented Yourself and come into this world with the resonance of music, in endless ways. You have manifested Yourself in innumerable styles and forms with rhythmic sweetness and beauty. Baba, all the pangs of loss, all disappointments, and weaknesses have been forgotten. Now everything is filled with Your divine charm.
Baba, due to Your unfathomable grace, we have been able to know You, hear You, and see You in countless ways. Baba, if this had not been Your desire-- if You had not blessed us in this way-- then how could we have gotten You. Baba, what else is the cause except Your krpa', Your divine grace.
O' Baba, You have come today with the beauty of rhythm and song...
PRABHAT SAMGIITA
"Campak vane dakhina' pavane..." (PS 40)
Purport:
Baba, You have presented Yourself and come into this world with the resonance of music, in endless ways. You have manifested Yourself in innumerable styles and forms with rhythmic sweetness and beauty. Baba, all the pangs of loss, all disappointments, and weaknesses have been forgotten. Now everything is filled with Your divine charm.
Baba, due to Your unfathomable grace, we have been able to know You, hear You, and see You in countless ways. Baba, if this had not been Your desire-- if You had not blessed us in this way-- then how could we have gotten You. Baba, what else is the cause except Your krpa', Your divine grace.
O' Baba, You have come today with the beauty of rhythm and song...
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One Should Always Remember
Baba says, "However little one's capacity might be, if one constantly remembers that Parama Purus'a is always with him, that they are in the closest contact with Parama Purus'a, they will be able to do everything. They are not as small as they think themselves to be. And as long as they remember this closest association with Him, they can do much more than ordinary human beings. When this idea becomes permanently established in their minds, they become great. This is why no one should be disappointed or depressed in any circumstances; let everyone constantly perform great deeds, remembering that the flow of their capacity is coming from Parama Purus'a, and thus they can do everything." (AFPS-3, p.62)
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One Should Always Remember
Baba says, "However little one's capacity might be, if one constantly remembers that Parama Purus'a is always with him, that they are in the closest contact with Parama Purus'a, they will be able to do everything. They are not as small as they think themselves to be. And as long as they remember this closest association with Him, they can do much more than ordinary human beings. When this idea becomes permanently established in their minds, they become great. This is why no one should be disappointed or depressed in any circumstances; let everyone constantly perform great deeds, remembering that the flow of their capacity is coming from Parama Purus'a, and thus they can do everything." (AFPS-3, p.62)
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