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Re: Ghosts Exist: Keshavanandji Says
From: "Marc Pele"
To: am-global@earthlink.net
Subject: Re: Ghosts Exist: Keshavanandji Says
Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 14:39:46 +0000
Baba
== RE: GHOSTS EXIST: KESHAVANANDJI SAYS ==
Namaskar,
Recently one respected Dada wrote in with some concerns about the
letter, "Ghosts Exist: Keshavanandji says". Their letter is appended
below for your review. But their basic premise is that the fear of a
ghost is the same as the fear as snake and that what Dadaji has written
in his book is fine.
Here following is a point by point reply:
1a) The fear of a snake is a real fear; it is founded; snakes exist in
this world and can bite you.
1b) The fear of a ghost is totally false - dogma. That fear is unfounded
as ghosts do not exist. So one cannot equate having a fear of snakes
with having a fear of ghosts. It is not at all the same thing.
Note: There are some who have a general fear of spiders, rats, insects
etc, and but that fear is not the same as "ghosts". Insects and rats
exists whereas ghosts do not.
2a) Snakes can be controlled; they are a known entity. If one is bitten
then they should be taken to the hospital for treatment.
2b) Ghosts cannot be controlled; they are an unknown entity. Ghosts can
fly, they can eat you; and there is no standard, logical process to get
treatment for treating an attack by a ghost.
3a) Baba does not say that snakes do not exist. He readily states that
snakes exist so to write a Baba story about the fear of snakes is not
contradictory.
3b) Baba does say that ghosts do not exist. He outrightly denies the
existence of ghosts in His teachings so to write a Baba story about the
fear of snakes is contradictory. If someone claims that Baba said that
ghosts exist, then that is totally wrong. One is propagating something
that Baba never told nor supports. It is similar to someone claiming
that Baba says that Ananda Margiis should smoke tobacco and drink alcohol.
4a) Snakes only exist in certain limited environments - they do not roam
anywhere and everywhere. They do not live in cold regions etc
4b) So-called Ghosts can go anywhere and get you anytime - they are not
limited in any way. Their domain has no bounds.
5) At present around the globe - from poor countries to rich countries -
people suffer from the mental disease of fear of ghosts. In some places
it is very disastrous and other places it is more controlled. In the
last one century alone, tens of thousands of innocent people have been
brutally tortured and killed after being branded as being captivated by
ghosts.
The fear of ghosts is especially high in tribal communities such as in
Africa etc. Certain populations strongly believe in the existence of
ghosts. They are totally submerged in this dogma. And in places like
Nigeria (Africa), if any bad thing happens to a family then the local
Christian priest will say that it was caused by one of the children who
is a ghost. They will then do all kinds of torturous things to that
innocent child: put nails in their head, pour boiling water on them, and
so many other painful things. All because that poor child has been
branded as a ghost.
This fear of ghosts leads people to commit so much harm. It has even
become a big business in Africa wherein priests are charging huge money
to rid families of ghosts. For more about this read:
Thus in no way shape or form should we as Ananda Margiis contribute to
such atrocities by encouraging this false, dogmatic fear of ghosts. Nor
should we present to the public that Baba and AM supports the existence
of ghosts.
6) If Dada Keshavananda had written that the so-called ghost is just
product of one's own imagination and that Baba has given the medicine to
fix this psychic fear, then that would have been fine. But Dadaji writes
as if ghosts really exist and that this claim is supported by Ananda
Marga and Baba.
It should have be stated as follows: If one does sadhana and repeats
their mantra then they will be cured of their psychic disease of seeing
ghosts via their own imagination.
Namaskar,
Mahendra
Note 1: LINK TO POSTING
Here is the link to the initial posting on this topic.
Note 2: HERE IS DADAJI'S LETTER
Here is Dadaji's letter which was written in reply to the initial posting (i.e. note 1).
On 07/23/2010 09:03 PM, Dadaji wrote:
> Namaskar
>
> It is relative on how you perceive the story.
>
> There is a person, who had problem "capture by ghost" and the margii
> help using Baba's technique this free that person from Ghost problem.
> For me it does not give indication that ghosts exist.
>
> Like someone afraid of snake, but there was no snake. There was a rope
> coil like snake, and one margii free that person from fear of snake
> by telling him that here is no snake but rope.
>
> Freeing someone "fear for snake - which is rope coiled like snake"
> does not mean we also mis-perceive the rope as snake!
>
> Freeing someone from Ghost fear, does not mean we believed in ghost!
>
> Namaskar
> Dada
>
>
>
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