== PP ELECTION: MARGIIS NOT HANDICAPPED ==
Note: Here it should be understood that margii means followers of Ananda
Marga, be they householder or whole-timer, as per the dictates of the
Supreme Command.
Namaskar,
In aftermath of PP Dada's demise, and with the upcoming selection of a
new PP, various margiis have been lamenting that they have no voice in
this process, or that this is purely a WT organisation, or that there is
no scope for margiis or general workers to affect the situation.
These are but a few of the things we are hearing.
When actually, Baba's true system is that margiis (family margiis and
general Wt's) are to play a tremendous role in all aspects of the
development and leadership of AMPS, including in the selection of a new
PP Dada.
So we should all be aware about these following ways that we can
positively affect the transformation of our Marga organisation, as in
the coming days a new PP will emerge. As we speak, the various groupists
are plotting their devious course.
FAMILY MARGIIS ARE ALSO PURODHAS
As we know, as per Carya Carya 1, PP is elected by the purodhas. None
should therefore conclude that no family margii gets to vote. Because it
is Baba's distinct system that family margiis are also purodhas. It was
Baba who made the late family acarya Raghunath a purodha; it was Baba
who made the late family acarya Candarnath a purodha; it was Baba who
made family acarya Kinshuk a purodha. So family margiis are meant to
have a distinct voice on the purodha board, and hence in the selection
of a new PP.
However, because since 1990 various groupist, power-hungry Wt's have
kidnapped the organisation, they have isolated and disenfranchised
margiis. And many of those householders whom Baba designated as purodhas
have since died. In result, now the purodha board is dominated by
wholetimers (sannyasis), i.e. ones who totally lust power and control.
So it is just a myth or a mirage, or a factional ploy, that only Wts can
be purodhas and that only Wts will select the next PP. This is all just
a dogmatic scheme put forth by a few power-hunger leaders.
In response, margiis (householders & general wts) must demand the right
to become Purodhas. Remember over the course of history, opportunists
have always railroaded the power into their own hands, and it is the
duty of good people to snatch back their right to also govern.
Now is the right moment to raise the voice that we margiis must also be
included on the purodha board.
LEADERS MUST BE FORCE TO FOLLOW AM CONSTITUTION
Baba Himself created AMPS as a vehicle for promoting and propagating AM
ideology. So any given leader of AMPS must follow our AM constitution
and Guru's teachings. They have no scope to transgress AM ideology or go
against the AM constitution.
So if any factional leader tries to use AMPS to further their own group
cause by fixing a PP election, or by selecting a paper-doll PP, then that
totally contravenes Baba's teachings.
In that case all margiis-- general acaryas and householders-- must raise
their voice, protest, practice silent action, and refuse to cooperate
with such crooked groupists in the guise of purodhas.
Everyone should express their feelings and generate tremendous pressure.
That is enough to create a stir. The group leaders are few in number and
have no moral strength; thus when the general workers and family margiis
number in the thousands, then with our moral conviction we can easily
pressurise those purodhas into following Baba's teachings, or force them
to step-down.
We have great tools like silent action, multimedia communication, not to
mention the ideals as laid down in AM ideology & the AM constitution.
All these things can and should be used to force purodhas to follow
Guru's guideline of coordinated cooperation between wts and margiis.
And if those leaders refuse to accept and follow Baba's teachings, then
they should be subjected to extreme pressure, if not humiliation, and be
forced to leave the post.
THERE IS LOTS MARGIIS CAN DO
Thus there is lots and lots that we margiis can do to remedy the
situation and claim a voice in the election of the next PP.
Should we fail to make a strong stand, then we will be merely extending
the rule & domination of groupist wts.
We must not become spineless victims, but rather must stand up and
demand, nay snatch back, our rights. This is the only option.
AMPS IS NOT LIKE A MUSLIM ORGANISATION
Ours is not a dogmatic Muslim organisation where the Mullahs have the
final say on every decision; our Wts cannot behave like that.
Ours is not a dogmatic Muslim organisation where females are totally
mute and voiceless; we margiis must not allow ourselves to be suppressed
like Muslime women. We have been given a big role in AMPS by Baba.
AMPS is a dharmic organisation given by Sadguru where all margiis have
the God-given right to actively participate in the governance of the
organisation.
MUST NOT SULK OR COMPLAIN
So we must not sulk or complain or sit around and moan, thinking that we
must always be subservient to those groupist Dadas. That is not our way;
that is not our destiny; that is not our dharma.
We are to stand up strong and demand that our voice be heard and make it
completely uncomfortable for those factional heads who try to suppress us.
Because we have a lot to say in the running of AMPS, and in the election
of the next PP.
BABA'S BLESSING
The next PP election is coming very soon, and as margiis we must know
that we have the right and the responsibility to have a deciding voice
in that election. Ours is a position of coordinated cooperation in AM,
not anything else. So when top groupist wts try to suppress us by
shoving the new PP down our throats, we should quickly and mightily rise
up and never let that come to pass. That is what Baba wants us to do.
Baba says, "In every field of collective life there should be
cooperation among the members of society. Where this cooperation is
between free human beings, each with equal rights and mutual respect for
each other, and each working for the welfare of the other, it is called
“coordinated cooperation”. Where people do something individually or
collectively, but keep themselves under other people’s supervision, then
it is called “subordinated cooperation”. In each and every stratum of
life, we should do everything with coordinated cooperation and always
avoid subordinated cooperation." (PNS-14)
Namaskar,
Subhash
Note 1: SOME THINGS SAID BY MARGIIS
Here are some of the things margiis are saying-- tragically a few of our
brothers and sisters are sunk in the murky waters, thinking that they
have no voice in AM. It is our duty to awaken one and all about the
great role we margiis have in the governance of AMPS.
"What can we do? As simple margiis, there's not much to do. The acaryas
hold all the cards...In AM culture, Sannyasis have all the power. It is
a sannayasii order." - Brother J
"According to the rules, the margiis and acaryas have nothing to do with
electing a new PP, that is the job of the purodhas." - Dada V
"As per Baba's system -the majority of Margiis have no say about who
will be the next PP. it is in the hands of few." - Sister H
"...there isn't much most of us can do..." - Margii C
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LONGEVITY
Baba says, "Spiritual practice makes the mind calm and quiet, and
maintains the nerves in a state of equipoise; and thus spiritual
practice increases longevity. Those Vaishnavites who are vegetarians,
who regularly sing spiritual songs, do meditation, perform virtuous
deeds and think pure thoughts, live longer than ninety years." (AV-33,
p. 113)
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Re: [Margii-Collective] Fwd: [AnandaMarg] Election of next PP
ReplyDeleteNamaskar
Posted by: "jiivan dev"
Re BNK-- PP Election%
3A Margiis Not Handicapped>
J: it would be best to see all purodhas resign, install a temporary
but representative committee to restructure AM in - say - one year's
time.
D: That is just a regurgitation of GAC. That idea failed completely
and was already abandoned. It lacked any real substantive basis and
was based on the absurd idea that somehow an ad-hoc committee
suddenly empowers itself to force a process on the Marga. It makes no
sense. Those sort of ideas mean, in practice, that no one accept
anyone elses authority in their respective posts in AMPS or other
parts of AM.
From: AM-GLOBAL
Date: Friday, October 17, 2008, 8:35 PM
Namaskar,
In aftermath of PP Dada's demise, and with the upcoming
selection of a
new PP,
D: It is an election. Means you can never really guess the outcome.
If there is only one candidate, well then it becomes obvious, but if
there are contenders, you have to go through a process respecting
each person's vote. Elections can lead to complete change even, it
is hard to predict the mode of the electorate, even if it is a
relatively small grouping of purodhas (compared to mass
electorates). That is a kind of beauty of elections.
When actually, Baba's true system is that margiis (family
margiis and
general Wt's) are to play a tremendous role in all aspects of
the
development and leadership of AMPS, including in the
selection of a new
PP Dada.
D: It doesn't happen automatically that anybody has some kind of
right like this, as you need to be qualified to vote and be part of
the voting body. How everyone can have a role in 'selection' of PP
is a rather odd statement.
As we know, as per Carya Carya 1, PP is elected by the
purodhas. None
should therefore conclude that no family margii gets to vote.
Because it
is Baba's distinct system that family margiis are also
purodhas.
D: You have to become qualified. It doesn't happen automatically.
they have ... disenfranchised margiis.
D: How about considering whether margiis have enfranchised themselves
enough in the first place. That is have become qualified and met the
criteria required. You need to consider that first.
In response, margiis (householders & general wts) must demand
the right
to become Purodhas.
D: It is not so easy to become qualified. Do you think it just
happens like that?
We have great tools like silent action, multimedia
communication, not to
mention the ideals as laid down in AM ideology & the AM
constitution.
D: Which AM-Global don't seem to follow. What is the purpose of AM-
GLOBAL, just to lash out at whoever they can. Also, they are so
judgemental. Recently they posted so much ravings about some WTs
working to earn a living. AM-GLOBAL doesn't seem to have much
practical sense in understanding practical development of missionary
work and establishing a base from which to work.
The next PP election is coming very soon, and as margiis we
must know
that we have the right and the responsibility to have a
deciding voice
in that election.
D: If you are qualified to vote.
"coordinated cooperation".
D: AM-GLOBAL has a complete inability to work with any one in an
organisational capacity, as they constantly lash out at organisation
and the executive heads / structural workers of the departments of
AMPS. How, can they possibly preach coordinated cooperation.
Posted by: "jiivan dev"
As for the election of a new PP, it might be interesting to
get a temporary and representative committe of notable WTs and/or
even margiis with a 0ne year tenure to resolve what should be done.
D: Will just lead to infighting. Such ad-hoc committees have no
power or mandate. It is the same old GAC idea. Persons who have
tried that basically create a situation where a few try to assume
control of the group/so-called committee and then others soon
recognise they have no structural authority as per AMPS system and
structure and it creates an indiscipline in that each person in the
group starts going by their own 'sense of freedom' rather than by
their discipline and dedication to organisation and mission. We have
seen that failing from EC type in Suva sector who like to claim all
sorts of organisational authority, when they have none - the
basically self-declare themselves. But it all falls apart because
people soon come to realise they have no jurisdiction, scope or
legitimacy. So even their own followers in the group gradually
abandon them, because they realise they don't have to follow them.
D: Once persons get into that mentality it is very hard for them to
extricate themselves from the failings they created. It requires deep
introspection. Instead out of ego they like to defend their failed
actions.
From: dadamahaviirananda mahaviirananda
Date: Sat, Oct 18, 2008 at 2:37 AM
M: the general view of the vast majority of Margis is to see an end
to the division in the organization.
M: Purodhas as they have been made in complete violation of Baba's
procedure order, Carycarya and convention.
D: It seems more like a few purodhas and some aspiring non-purodha
WTs who wanted to run things outside of organisational system and
structure. That was the purpose of GAC, EC, NCC (of Goenka), etc. It
is these persons who have done most of the loud shouting and invented
all the concoctions.
M: The power hunger among some of the Purodhas is the chief cause of
the crisis.
D: Maybe examine things more and see who is in the groups that
challenged Centre with all the cases. That may give a better idea
behind things.
M: Kolkata has a lot of self-created Purodhas who are not going to be
acceptable to anyone outside Kolkata administration. These Purodhas
have been created without the approval of PP dada, which is mandatory
as per Procedure Order of Baba
D: But look at the 'third front' and all the concoctions and
inventions they created that are outside of Baba's system and
structure and clearly outside of AMPS. These days it seems Kolkata
are fairly low key, just waiting for a few court cases to come up.
Are they really causing that much chaos, compared to others.
M: it would be appropriate that a meeting of representatives of all
affiliations and groups all over the world be called without any
delay to discuss on this.
D: If you go with group attributes, a very recent invention in AMPS,
then it won't achieve much. You already be there with blinkers. Why
place so much relevance on a very temporary and limited abberation of
groups that has made some mark only in a relatively short time of AM
recent history. It is like thinking this has some ultimate
importance, when it is seems more like a passing fad, and it would be
odd to place so much importance on that fad for the future of AM.
--- On Sun, 10/19/08, Didi didianandarama wrote:
I think it is important that everyone realises that Rev.
Baba has provide a window of opportunity for all factions to
bury their
hatchet and not let few legal 'luminaries' and 'hardline
cronies' of any
faction to lose this opportunity of furthering Baba's mission.
D: It would be a political solution then. There is hardly much 'law'
in it. But that seems OK. So long as solutions are reached
following substance of what Baba gave for the organisation. Amnesties
can be there. Maybe even immunities (after all it happens on the
world stage of events all the time).
Therefore, I propose that the decision to elect the new PP be
made
jointly by all and that sufficient time be allowed to do
proper
deliberations this time , review our lapses, work out
differences and
begin repairing the damage which has been done over the past
18 years.
D: So far groups have not been mentioned in this post above, so that
is good.
If Ranchi goes ahead in panic that Kolkata will use legal
route to
declare their PP or vice versa,
D: I doubt if that could happen. There is a Supreme Court decision
in India that does say something about the organisation. It is
mentioned in the Tandava case, that to gain the status of a religious
denomination under the Indian nation's constitution there should be a
common organisation. So a soon as anyone tries to spring up 2
purodhas or whatever like that, such an attempt would completely fail
on that legal point, in my view. I don't think anyone would be so
foolhardish to try that on. It would create a backlash, just as in
the same way with the cancellation of the DMS event a while back. It
did no one any good.
it would be very unfortunate because in
both cases the seeds of factionalism will not allow for the
unity of the
Samgha to be established.
D: Yes, it would be a very much wrong step. It seems there was quite
a backlash with the DMS cancellation case. Also, a lot of the other
cases about GS not having posting authority etc also failed. Taking
a case to court about PP election is bound to cause disintegration
and probably isolation of those who want to do it out of prestige or
saving face or whatever.
The leaders of different factions may be
hesitant to support a joint statement.It is however so
important.
D: However would there be an assurance that from here on only one
common organisation is recognised operating under a common procedure
of AMPS. Making a statement from different factions might not be
going to help much if there is no non-recognition of factions
henceforth.
D: It is like we saw in Suva sector where self-declared posts are
made and persons self-declare themselves SS or whatever and even
attempt to claim victory on 4 votes (one of which is their own), when
in any case SS is an administrative appointment not a voting matter.
It is these crazy ideas like this, if they are still floating around,
despite any joint statement, that one has to question what the
statement will it resolve. You have to remove the out-of-system
agendas really to make forward progress. The statement has to be to
that effect.
So
today is 19th October and still nothing has happened. So I
appeal to one
and all to reconsider their positions.and agree to a delayed
date say
Oct 27th or even later and use this week to open up
conversation on the
subject in some dignified manner.Sky is not going to fall if
we are all
firm in our resolve to do the right thing. The post of PP is
for life so
we should not be in a hurry to do any window dressing with
this
important decision.
D: Interestingly, as I can't remember, how long did it take for the
first PP to come about after Baba departed?
It affects all of us, so we cannot remain silent
also while a 'few' trade thye future of our beloved Baba's
mission.
I hope that sanity will prevail and a neohumanist solution
will emerge
out of this small step and some effort.
If nothing else, it can atleast be resolved that "PP
candidate of each
faction must first be endorsed by all factions" before being
declared.
If we rush to the courts as we have done before, it will lead
to each
factions demise.
D: The candidates can stand on their own ground and merits. Why
should they even be 'endorsed' by factions. Leave all that aside and
just go by "the votes of the Purodhas" not by putting any factional
elements into it. I'm sure you will get the appropriate pool of
candidates that way. Muddying things by bringing factionally endorsed
candidates won't help. That should be avoided.
UNITED WE SHALL GROW AND DIVIDED WE SHALL PERISH.
Best Regards,
Ac. Shambhushivananda Avt.
Kulapati, AMGK
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Regards
Dharmadeva