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Mumbai Meeting: Clash, Shouting, & Abuse
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Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2006 14:28:41
Subject: Mumbai Meeting: Clash, Shouting, & Abuse
Baba
== MUMBAI MEETING: CLASH, SHOUTING, & ABUSE ==
Namaskar,
Here is a report about the recent global meeting in Ailbag (near Mumbai)
held 18-19-20 of November 2008.
WHERE, WHO, WHAT
1) The meeting of 3rd front and Kolkata B group started on 18th of the
Nov. and finished on 20th of Nov. Meeting was held at Alibag near Mumbai
in India in the well-managed, beautiful, luxurious farmhouse of Mr.
Agarawaljii of Mumbai.
2) About 50 WTs and some margiis were present there. Margiis were not
there to support any dada or group. Most of the margiis were there to
establish unity of the organisation.
3) The main motive of the meeting was to unite so-called unity group and
Kolkata B group. Senior strategic margiis thought that if Kolkata and
3rd front unite then Ranchi administration will become smaller and will
have less strength than this other "united" group. And then unity will
be easier.
THE MAIN ISSUE: 'WE DO NOT WANT UNITY'
4) On 18th morning, the meetings started with discussion about "unity
action plan." Many suggestions came of which two are highly important.
The first and main plan was to make one united "Global Interim central
body" with senior members of both Kolkata and so-called unity group.
Margiis and many workers supported this idea but Kolkata B group dadas
(Kalyaneshvara'nanda, Dhayanesha'nanda, Bhavesha'nanda, Rtbodha'nanda))
strongly opposed and condemned this idea. They mercilessly kicked the
idea of unity of one united organisation. They openly told, "Kolkata
administration would never support or accept total unity ideas, legal
unity or one united administration."
After this announcement of disunity by Kalyaneshvara'nanda, all the
margiis were shocked. Between disturbances and opposition from margiis,
Kolkata dadas also told that they would never make one central body.
They also told that they would never share power with unity group people.
Dhaya'nesha'nanda of B group invented his own fallacy or lame excuse
that actually this unity plan is nonsense and they (Kolkata group) are
not so stupid so they would ever get betrayed again by unity group
people. Wherein they came together only to see B group get kicked out.
Dha'nesha'nanda told that Kolkata people will never lose power again.
They will never share power with unity group.
KOLKATA WANTS SEPARATE EVERYTHING
5) Kolkata administration gave their plan that Kolkata and unity group
will be separate administrations. They put forth their crude theory that
they will have their separate CC, ACB, etc. And from both
administrations on every level there will be interaction committees
which will discuss about get-togethers and united social functions. But
legally and practically on administrative or political levels there will
be not unity, rather both groups will have their separate existence and
administrations. B group told that we don't want unity, we want
co-ordinated co-operation with unity group.
Actually B group just wants a little support of unity group to make
inroads margiis. After the murder of Dada Abhiprema'nandajii, B group
became totally untouchable in the eyes of margiis all over world. B
group is co-operating a little with unity group now just to become
touchable.They have their ulterior agenda to take revenge against unity
group leaders. B group dadas have their inner agenda that once they get
direct support of Hindi area margiis, then they (B group) will throw
unity group people out like flies off milk. That's why B group is not
agreeing on this point of unity, rather they are giving pressure on
collective functions, seminars, entrance in each others Ashrams etc.
When B group have grip on common people then naturally B group will
capture the area.
EC wanted to merge in order to access Bengali areas and B group
did not want to share power but rather extend their power and gradually
capture other areas like the East India Company did.
UNITY NOT POSSIBLE BY GROUPISTS
6) After all this it was clear that there will be not unity between the
"unity" group led by Parmeshvara'nanda, Vandana'nanda, and Kolkata / B
group. In the 2nd half of first day meeting it was clear that unity
among these factional groupist leaders was impossible.
The overall situation was bitter. Nobody was feeling comfortable.
Margiis were sad. They were telling that they were not thinking that
these senior dadas are such like Satan.
ABUSIVE LANGUAGE AND YELLING
7) Just after 2 hours of meetings, then hot discussions, shouting,
using abusive language was common. Group leaders were staying in
separate rooms with their own group partners. They were not talking with
other group members. Many margiis and unity group leaders gave harsh
speeches against Kolkata administration. Then Kolkata people left the
meeting hall and went to their rooms. Night time they were not ready to
take food.
After lots of buttering by the organisers, then 3 dadas from Kolkata
took food but Rtbodha'nanda did not take food there. He took Murhi
(Puffed rice). He told that he will eat what he has brought from Bengal.
8) Once when Bhavesha'nanda was giving a speech, then he started telling
something against Goenkajii. Goenkajii stood up and started shouting
against Bhavesha'nanda in the middle of speech. This type of shouting
and abusive language etc was common. So there was a chaos in the meeting
on the first day even. Then the other two days there was not serious
discussion about unity. Just everybody was feeling they should talk
about something else. Instead of discussing the problem of factionalism
and disunity in centre, they talked about development of ladies and
youths and unity of margiis.
Margiis were telling that they came here after leaving their home and
work, spending money and these dadas are worshiping disunity. Many
margiis were thinking that this meeting was just waste of time and money.
FACTIONS IGNORE POINT OF IDEOLOGY
9) Some senior margiis told that to get unity in the organisation first
we should destroy causes behind disunity. One margii told that if "Truth
will be one then organisation will be one." He showed 5 Carya'carya of
difference versions. Margiis supported Carya'carya of before 1990. They
told clearly that CC can't be changed or revised.
One very senior margii told that "Revision of the Ideology (Scripture)
will create division of the organisation". So it should be proper.
But neither B group nor unity group was agreed on these ideological
issues. Both groups avoided these points.
BABA'S BLESSING
These were the main aspects of the meeting. Other small points will be
discussed in future mailings.
By Baba's grace, true margiis and wts know that unity can only be made
based on ideology, not on any groupist compromise.
By not following Baba's below teachings then we will witness a mess
of group interests and clash, as happened at the Mumbai / Alibag.
Baba says, "Where there is no propagation of satya, people indulge in
individual selfishness or group selfishness. The aim or object there is
not enlivened with the idea of collective welfare. The only object of
the party concerned is how to establish oneself in this material world
by means of the use of well-knit language and cunningness." (Tattvik
Diipika, part 2)
Baba says, "Never do anything only to serve the interest of the party [group].
Whatever you do should be for the benefit of the mass, for the welfare
of the people." (Tattvik Diipika, part 2)
Namaskar,
Parashram
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