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Mumbai Meeting: Clash, Shouting, & Abuse

To: AM-GLOBAL From: Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2006 14:28:41 Subject: Mumbai Meeting: Clash, Shouting, & Abuse Baba
== MUMBAI MEETING: CLASH, SHOUTING, & ABUSE ==
Namaskar, Here is a report about the recent global meeting in Ailbag (near Mumbai) held 18-19-20 of November 2008.
WHERE, WHO, WHAT
1) The meeting of 3rd front and Kolkata B group started on 18th of the Nov. and finished on 20th of Nov. Meeting was held at Alibag near Mumbai in India in the well-managed, beautiful, luxurious farmhouse of Mr. Agarawaljii of Mumbai. 2) About 50 WTs and some margiis were present there. Margiis were not there to support any dada or group. Most of the margiis were there to establish unity of the organisation. 3) The main motive of the meeting was to unite so-called unity group and Kolkata B group. Senior strategic margiis thought that if Kolkata and 3rd front unite then Ranchi administration will become smaller and will have less strength than this other "united" group. And then unity will be easier.
THE MAIN ISSUE: 'WE DO NOT WANT UNITY'
4) On 18th morning, the meetings started with discussion about "unity action plan." Many suggestions came of which two are highly important. The first and main plan was to make one united "Global Interim central body" with senior members of both Kolkata and so-called unity group. Margiis and many workers supported this idea but Kolkata B group dadas (Kalyaneshvara'nanda, Dhayanesha'nanda, Bhavesha'nanda, Rtbodha'nanda)) strongly opposed and condemned this idea. They mercilessly kicked the idea of unity of one united organisation. They openly told, "Kolkata administration would never support or accept total unity ideas, legal unity or one united administration." After this announcement of disunity by Kalyaneshvara'nanda, all the margiis were shocked. Between disturbances and opposition from margiis, Kolkata dadas also told that they would never make one central body. They also told that they would never share power with unity group people. Dhaya'nesha'nanda of B group invented his own fallacy or lame excuse that actually this unity plan is nonsense and they (Kolkata group) are not so stupid so they would ever get betrayed again by unity group people. Wherein they came together only to see B group get kicked out. Dha'nesha'nanda told that Kolkata people will never lose power again. They will never share power with unity group.
KOLKATA WANTS SEPARATE EVERYTHING
5) Kolkata administration gave their plan that Kolkata and unity group will be separate administrations. They put forth their crude theory that they will have their separate CC, ACB, etc. And from both administrations on every level there will be interaction committees which will discuss about get-togethers and united social functions. But legally and practically on administrative or political levels there will be not unity, rather both groups will have their separate existence and administrations. B group told that we don't want unity, we want co-ordinated co-operation with unity group. Actually B group just wants a little support of unity group to make inroads margiis. After the murder of Dada Abhiprema'nandajii, B group became totally untouchable in the eyes of margiis all over world. B group is co-operating a little with unity group now just to become touchable.They have their ulterior agenda to take revenge against unity group leaders. B group dadas have their inner agenda that once they get direct support of Hindi area margiis, then they (B group) will throw unity group people out like flies off milk. That's why B group is not agreeing on this point of unity, rather they are giving pressure on collective functions, seminars, entrance in each others Ashrams etc. When B group have grip on common people then naturally B group will capture the area. EC wanted to merge in order to access Bengali areas and B group did not want to share power but rather extend their power and gradually capture other areas like the East India Company did.
UNITY NOT POSSIBLE BY GROUPISTS
6) After all this it was clear that there will be not unity between the "unity" group led by Parmeshvara'nanda, Vandana'nanda, and Kolkata / B group. In the 2nd half of first day meeting it was clear that unity among these factional groupist leaders was impossible. The overall situation was bitter. Nobody was feeling comfortable. Margiis were sad. They were telling that they were not thinking that these senior dadas are such like Satan.
ABUSIVE LANGUAGE AND YELLING
7) Just after 2 hours of meetings, then hot discussions, shouting, using abusive language was common. Group leaders were staying in separate rooms with their own group partners. They were not talking with other group members. Many margiis and unity group leaders gave harsh speeches against Kolkata administration. Then Kolkata people left the meeting hall and went to their rooms. Night time they were not ready to take food. After lots of buttering by the organisers, then 3 dadas from Kolkata took food but Rtbodha'nanda did not take food there. He took Murhi (Puffed rice). He told that he will eat what he has brought from Bengal. 8) Once when Bhavesha'nanda was giving a speech, then he started telling something against Goenkajii. Goenkajii stood up and started shouting against Bhavesha'nanda in the middle of speech. This type of shouting and abusive language etc was common. So there was a chaos in the meeting on the first day even. Then the other two days there was not serious discussion about unity. Just everybody was feeling they should talk about something else. Instead of discussing the problem of factionalism and disunity in centre, they talked about development of ladies and youths and unity of margiis. Margiis were telling that they came here after leaving their home and work, spending money and these dadas are worshiping disunity. Many margiis were thinking that this meeting was just waste of time and money.
FACTIONS IGNORE POINT OF IDEOLOGY
9) Some senior margiis told that to get unity in the organisation first we should destroy causes behind disunity. One margii told that if "Truth will be one then organisation will be one." He showed 5 Carya'carya of difference versions. Margiis supported Carya'carya of before 1990. They told clearly that CC can't be changed or revised. One very senior margii told that "Revision of the Ideology (Scripture) will create division of the organisation". So it should be proper. But neither B group nor unity group was agreed on these ideological issues. Both groups avoided these points.
BABA'S BLESSING
These were the main aspects of the meeting. Other small points will be discussed in future mailings. By Baba's grace, true margiis and wts know that unity can only be made based on ideology, not on any groupist compromise. By not following Baba's below teachings then we will witness a mess of group interests and clash, as happened at the Mumbai / Alibag. Baba says, "Where there is no propagation of satya, people indulge in individual selfishness or group selfishness. The aim or object there is not enlivened with the idea of collective welfare. The only object of the party concerned is how to establish oneself in this material world by means of the use of well-knit language and cunningness." (Tattvik Diipika, part 2) Baba says, "Never do anything only to serve the interest of the party [group]. Whatever you do should be for the benefit of the mass, for the welfare of the people." (Tattvik Diipika, part 2) Namaskar, Parashram

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