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"Ba'ngla' and Ba'nga'lii"

From: "Ramlal Sharma" To: Subject: "Ba'ngla' and Ba'nga'lii" Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 07:44:19 +0530 Baba "Ye ga'ne toma'ke shon'a'i tumi ki shon' na' priyo..." (PS 4471) Purport: O' my dearmost Baba, why don't You listen to the song which I am singing for You? Why do You neglect that song which is coming from my heart. The song which expresses the longing and yearning of my heart. That very song You do not care about-- why like this. When the flower which blossoms on this earth and emanates aroma all around, when that very flower is lying on the dust & crying, can that be forgotten? If it pleases You, You can take back all those mundane things which You have given me. Only one request I have-- that please remain constantly in my ideation. That is my sole desire...
Namaskar, These days, one group is spreading dogma that their samaj is the gifted one. And Baba did a special favor. At the centre of the favor was, a special book about their samaj which Baba wrote. And that book is "Bangla and Bengali". So this type of message is spreading around. And it is creating confusion in the entire Margi society. So on this point, certain critical facts I gathered, that I am enlisting here for your consultation. And at the same time, it is my request that what is your opinion about this point. You should also share. So here are the points about the "Bangla and Bengali" book, which that group is bragging about. This book is not any special book. Rather it is just one in the series of collections of discourses, made from various previous AM books. And not only that. It is not even a collection of complete discourses. It has a few discourses, which are complete -- which have been collected from other AM books. And yet most are just excerpts--a few paragraphs from discourses which are found in other books of AM Publications. Following are the facts. 1. To say or give logic that this book is specially about Bengal and given by Baba specially for that. And similar thing Baba did not do in relation with other samajas, does not have any sense. 2. For example, see the first discourse in this 'Bangla and Bengali' book, entitled "Tantra and Indo-Aryan Civilization". - In Bangla, "Tantra o Arya Bha'ratiiya Sabyata'". This is one very old discourse from the book "Abhimata". In English, that book is called "The Opinion". The discourse is now also in A Few Problems Solved (AFPS) and Discourses on Tantra. Those who are senior Margis, they know that this discourse was commonly known many, many years back. That time when Ananda Doot was published in Hindi, there it got published. When Central Office was in Jamalpur. And this book "Bangla and Bengali" came only recently. So in "Bangla and Bengali", that old discourse has been added and made the first chapter. So the point here is, that the discourse "Tantra and Indo-Aryan Civilization" is not originally published in "Bangla and Bengali". Not at all. To suggest so is to mislead. Rather, this discourse has been published since many years in various AMPS books. It has been brought into this book "Bangla and Bengali" only recently, but this discourse has come from other published AMPS books. Here in "Bangla and Bengali", it is just an appended discourse, part of a collection. Yet one group is claiming, that this book "Bangla and Bengali" was specially written by Baba as a favor to them, to reveal that their samaj (socio-economic unit) is gifted above all others. When this discourse and so many others from the book, already existed for years and were simply republished and reprinted in "Bangla and Bengali". Then if anyone is using this book to say their samaj is more gifted than others, that is looking like something false.
3. Usually wherever Baba visited, He gave huge talks on the various points of that local area / socioeconomic unit / samaj. Wherever DMC was, there Baba made a special tour and invited samaj Margis to join in the discourse. And then He gave various types of informations, about the local area and its development. But Sarvatmanandji did not like these discourses on samajas (socio-economic movements) outside Bengal, so those discourses did not get printed. Margis of those areas where Baba visited, they are living proof of this. If Sarvatmanandji had continued as the leader of AMPS, then Baba's discourses on other samajas all over India outside Bengal, they would never have come in the picture. Because in this world everything is changing. Those who are born, they will die. So those who are living proof, i.e. Margis of all those samajas (socio-economic units) outside Bengal where Baba visited. After their passing away, proof of Baba's visits to those places would have been lost. But instead now these Margis are the proof. Means, Baba gave huge information about all these samajas (socio-economic units) throughout India. Each and every samaj where Baba visited, such things happened. And such "Bangla-Bengali" type of book can be made about all the samajas. So saying this-- that Baba only spoke about Amra Bengali and none else, that is the notion of mental illness. 4. This "Bangla and Bengali" book is made of excerpts from previously published discourses. That is, discourses which have already been published in other AMPS books. Excerpts or limited selected parts of those discourses have been re-printed in "Bangla and Bengali". So one group is claiming that Baba has specially given this book for their samaj. That it is one special grace He made. When the discourses are published already in other AMPS books, then it is clear this is false news they are propagating. 5. Most of the discourses in "Bangla and Bengali", either they are full discourses available elsewhere in previous AM publications, or they are partial excerpts taken directly from other chapters of Baba's discourses. 6. One more example I will give you. The Samskrta grammar book series Shabda Cayanika from book 1-26. One of the chapters of this 'Bangla and Bengali' book is called "Bengali ki Viiresh Vijay Ke Bhule Jabe?". This very chapter is an excerpt from the Samskrta grammar Shabda Cayanika book, Part 1 pages 93-115. It is also available in the ZY-Find electronic edition. So in that way, what is printed in "Bangla and Bengali" is just excerpted from other AMPS books. Chapter after chapter in this Bangla-Bengali book is like that--taken from other books. But groupist persons are bragging that this book proves Baba favored their samaj. Compared to other samajas, they falsely claim that Bangalistan was given "top priority by Baba". And the book "Bangla and Bengali" which they say proves Baba gave more attention to their samaj, is full of discourses reprinted from other books. Here above I have given one example, and I will provide further examples below. 7. Those who were in power those days, wherever they got anything from Baba's discourses related with Bengali, they collected those paragraphs. And those very things, which Baba spoke about other samajas, they avoided. They rejected such things which are unrelated with their samaj, like straw. Then with the excerpts about Bengal which they collected, they created different titles and made them look like various independent discourses. And in that way a special book was created, that is -- "Bangla and Bengali". This is a sort of hypocrisy. To claim that "Bangalistan was given top priority by Baba in all the Samajas." And they try to prove Baba's "favoritism" on the basis of the book "Bangla and Bengali". But such claims are nonsense, as all Margis know that Baba's discourses about other samajas are plenty. But the group in power those days ignored and refused to print those other samaj discourses. And the book "Bangla and Bengali" which is supposed to prove Baba focussed only on Amra Bengali-- that book is full of discourses reprinted from other books which themselves have nothing to do with Bengal. So such claims to the "special status" of Bengal are completely false, unfounded. 8. We know that Namami Krsna Sundaram, Namah Shivaya Shantaya, Ananda Sutram, Guide to Human Conduct, and so many books. They are all complete books of Baba. Everything in these just-mentioned titles is original to those very books. It was never published before it came in those books. These are the volumes of Baba's originally published material. While after that, so many books came which are collections of other books. And these collected books such as AM Philosophy in a Nutshell, are "collection books". Because discourses from other AMPS books like Ananada Marga Elementary Philosophy, Idea and Ideology, Tattva Kaomudii, Faculty of Knowledge, Prama, Namami Krsna Sundaram, etc. So many discourses of all these books have been collected. And one series has been made, whose name is AM Philosophy in a Nutshell. But here, one thing we should remember. That in the Ananda Marga Philosophy in a Nutshell series, excerpts or sections of discourses from other books of Baba are not treated as independent chapters. No partial discourses have been brought. Rather, certain chapters have been brought in full, and this collection book, has been created. 9. To create collection books, there is a standard style which Baba has shown us: Collect the complete discourses given on one particular idea. And then gather those discourses, print them together and create one book. But collecting the paragraphs of various chapters and treating them as a special chapter. And on the top beating the drum, that "This special 'Bangla and Bengali' book is given by Baba in favor of Bengal only. No samaj could get that favor from Baba's side." Those who write like this, or propagate like this, they are imbalanced. 10. Here are some more facts, about the "Bangla and Bengali" book. From so many other books, like Ananda Vacanamrtam, Subhasita Samgraha, Prout, etc, different paragraphs have been collected and treated as though they are independent chapters of "Bangla and Bengali". In that way, this "Bangla and Bengali" book has been created. For example, Kuru Punyam Ahoratram - "Do Virtuous deeds Day and Night". And "Seven Secrets of Success". And so many more such discourses already printed in other books. They just took the discourse and branded it as a discourse of "Bangla and Bengali". They gave a new title and put it there. As though it had never been published elsewhere. By this way, fanatic Bengalis, those who are suffering from the psychic disease of narrow-mindedness or racial supremacy.(see note 1) They created the book. And now they are puffed up in the vanity of the supremacy of their race. And they think that they are specially God-gifted. So one should understand the hypocrisy of hypocritical people. With their dogmatic mind what they say, what they write has nothing to do with dharma, morality, or standard human practice. When hypocrisy is the be-all and end-all of life, then what noble guideline can you get from such people? Now in our organization, group clash is up to its brim. Its peak. Both the groups are creating huge problem. I did not have any desire to write on such point related with group politics. And when these groupist people, they falsely propagate their glory in silly manners, then usually I keep quiet. But in this case of "Bangla and Bengali", they brought Baba into their periphery. (see note 2) And they wrote in such a way as if Baba did a special favor to them. By writing the "Bangla and Bengali" book. But that was not the Satya, or eternal truth. Rather to give proper answer, all these above narrated facts have been collected. To give proof that Baba is impartial. He did not bestow special favor to Bengalistan. Only psychically diseased (see note 3) people are painting the rosy picture in a different way from the reality. No one should forget that Baba loves equally, one and all. He teaches us to work for the entire universe. Mind should be 360 degrees. It must not be narrow. Please write your suggestions.
In these difficult days, Baba blesses us with the following inspiration. That these times of narrow minded thought are giving way to a new, more enlightened age. "Narrow sentiments are gradually fading away and a universal outlook is arising in the minds of human beings. Science and technological development have exposed the blind faith and dogma that have suffocated many sections of society, and gradually humanity is advancing towards an age of rationality and common interest." (PNS-13, p.18) Baba further graces us, "We have a bright future--the crimson light of that future is breaking through the dark horizon of the present. We must welcome it." (PNS-9, p.36) Namaskar, Ramlal * In one of his group propaganda letters entitled "SUPPORT BANGALISTAN & SAMAJ MOVEMENT", Kalyaneshvaranandji has written the following: "Bangalistan was given top priority by Baba in all the Samajas." And to support his claim, Kalyaneshvaranandji has written: "Baba published the book "Bangla and Bangali." No such book was published by AMPS about any other Samaj, because - Baba never spoke so much about any other Samaj" ** These Shabda Cayanika discourses Baba has given in the Bangla language. That is why innocent and confused people, they think this is a book of Bengali grammar. But those who have gone through the book very carefully, they know this is Samskrta grammar. This book has nothing to do with Bengali grammar only. It is the grammar mainly of Samskrta, and then other Samskrta-related languages. Because hundreds of languages' vocabulary is from Samskrta. A huge percentage is there. Mostly Indian languages, some have more than 90% Samskrta and some a little less. But they carry these roots. That's why this Shabda Cayanika book is the grammar of all those languages. So it is our duty to remove this dogma that this Shabda Cayanika is a Bengali grammar book. It is just like when a mad dog bites anyone, then the germ spreads to and spoils that very living being. Similarly these diseased people, whatever comes in their contact, they tried to color it in their Bengali color. And went on and on singing the chorus in the favor of their samaj or their language. And so many things. *** In "Bangla and Bengali", most of the discourses are like this -- that is, excerpted from somewhere else. Two examples I have given you, above. But almost all are like this. Here follow more. Other chapters in "Bangla and Bengali" taken from Shabda Cayanika include: - "History of Bengal" from AFPS parts 3 and 5. They made this into the chapters 9 and 10 of Bangla and Bengali. - "Bengali New Year" -- This was AFPS-5, and they put it in as the chapter 11 of Bangla and Bengali. - "Spring Festival" is from AFPS-5 . And they put it as chapter #12 in Bangla and Bengali. - "Light Festival" from AVM, also taken and placed in Bangla and Bengali. And so many such discourses of AVM and Prout, and AFPS. And the Samskrta Grammar book. They just collected some full discourses and some excerpts. Some excerpts have been taken also from the Varna Vijinana and Varna Vicitra series of discourses. Uprooted from their original place and printed there in "Bangla and Bengali". note 1: Regarding those who suffer from the psychic disease of narrow-mindedness or racial supremacy. Those who are puffed up in the vanity of the supremacy of their race. And they think they are specially God-gifted. About the path followed by such persons, Baba says, "The followers of ism foolishly consider themselves to be God's chosen ones... They think that the Supreme Father bestows His grace only on them, not on the rest of creation." (PNS-16, p.6) And regarding such people, who consider their race to be higher than that of others. Baba condemns such persons on the point of their racial supremacy. Baba says, "Those who...believe in the artificial distinctions of caste and class, etc., or beat drums proclaiming racial supremacy, follow the path of self-contraction. Their sa'dhana' is the sa'dhana' of ignorance and annihilation." (DT-2, p.45) Baba concludes below, explaining about the outcome of those who misguidedly follow this crude path of racial supremacy, by viciously exploiting others. Baba says, "They talk about universalism like parrots. They have no defined ideology in their individual and collective lives, and merely dedicate themselves to the deception of the human race as they strive to serve their petty self-interests by any means, fair or foul. We cannot expect any beneficial contribution from them." (DT-2, p.13) Note 2: My situation is like suppose, if you are sitting in your quiet lonely room, doing your own job. And one dog started barking outside the window, constantly. Then how long can you tolerate such noise? So under the pressure of circumstances, you have to go and solve the barking problem. So when some people give wrong notion that Baba gave a special favor to their samaj or their language, then it is the duty of any Margi to remove the dogma which is getting spread. Because of this reason, I was forced to write. Note 3: Baba explains that only psychically diseased persons can develop interest to propagate their own so-called racial supremacy. And paint one falsified picture that Taraka Brahma favors their samaj above all others. Here Baba explains about the origin of this serious affliction. Baba says, "Those who do not follow the spiritual path may perform harmful actions at any time. Even those whom society respects as intelligent or learned may, in reality, be no better than "polished satans", or what the scriptures call "demons". Our modern society is full of such people." (DT-2, p.13) And ultimately, Baba tells the fate of such persons. Baba says, "Those who accept differences of lineage and caste degrade themselves, and are ultimately converted into foxes, dogs, pigs, worms, or even trees and stones." No one can prevent their degradation." (DT-2, p.45)
*************************************** About Rich People
Parama Purusa Baba says, "It must always be remembered that the value of money lies in its proper use. If more money is accumulated than what is necessary, it becomes valueless for want of use. To the extent that you keep idle and valueless money with you, to that extent you become responsible for the injustices done to the hungry and the naked. Your valueless hoard will have to be made valuable by providing opportunities for use by others. Those who do not know the right use of money on the basis of the exchange of mundane resources are in fact the enemies of society." (HS-1, p. 41)

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