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From: Divyamshu DDforBaba@aces...
Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2012 21:11:14
Subject: About That Famous Bogus Quote
Baba
Namaskar,
One of our main duties as Ananda Margiis is to maintain and present Baba's teaching in an untainted manner to the world and future generations. That means Baba's books and discourses should be clearly and purposefully noted. Side by side, we must also ensure words, phrases, and teachings are not wrongly attributed to Him. That is equally important.
At present, there is one infamous line that is wrongly attributed to Baba that some still remain confused about - here is that statement:
"I am not this physical body, this physical body is not me. If you want to know me, work for my mission, because I have merged myself with my mission."
As we know, all of Baba's statements and teachings are logical and rational. Thus, if the above line is truly Baba's guideline then it should stand up to the test of reason and rationality.
Let's evaluate this so-called Baba quote step by step. Here is the first part:
"I am not this physical body, this physical body is not me."
As we know, Baba is Parama Purusa Himself and He is not limited to His physical body. So this initial statement is proper; it parallels Baba's teaching from point #1a of Caryacarya part 2:
"The one formless, beginningless and infinite Parama Brahma (Supreme Consciousness) is the only entity to be attained by living beings – That alone is Jagat Guru (the Supreme preceptor), That alone has revealed Brahmavidyá (intuitional science) to us through the medium of the name and form of Anandamúrtijii. Unit beings must be made to appreciate Its majesty." (Caryacarya - 2, Sadhana, pt #1a)
Plus, when acaryas teach dhyana to any sadhaka and guide them to ideate on the form of Guru then it is expressed that this image is not the image of Purna Brahma (Full Brahma); rather by this limited form which Guru has taken, the sadhaka reaches to Purna Brahma.
So up until this point the quote is ok ("I am not this physical body, this physical body is not me") as it is consistent with Ananda Marga teachings.
It is this next part that is of such a dubious nature:
"If you want to know me, work for my mission, because I have merged myself with my mission."
This part of the quote proclaims that the Cosmic Entity Baba (Ista) has merged Himself into yet another lesser entity - i.e. mission.
Here we have to remember that all beings emanate from the Cosmic Entity (Ista) - so Ista is the Hub of the entire cosmological order. Thus, there is nothing greater or bigger than Ista because that Ista is Purusottoma or the Cosmic Hub. So it is impossible for that infinite, Divine Hub to wholly merge into yet another hub. This is a false and ludicrous notion to think that the Cosmic Entity is merging into something else which has been created by Him.
Here again we can think:
Parama Purusa is the Supreme Nucleus and all the jiivas are ultimately merging into Him. He is the Hub & He is infinite. So when He is that Universal Hub and the final abode of all unit beings, then how is He going to merge into something else that is smaller which He Himself created, i.e. mission. Parama Purusa is infinite so how can He merge in that which is finite (mission). This is a totally illogical notion that goes 100% against Baba's teachings on brahmacakra, or the cycle of creation. Brahma is the Ultimate Entity and does not merge into something else. Ista does not merge into adarsha; rather, Ista is the creator of adarsha.
FOR RATIONAL MARGIIS THE POINT IS CLEAR
All Ananda Margiis are open-minded because of sincere sadhana practices. Those attached with this so-called quote, and continue to attribute it to Baba, have a closed mind. Their sense of rationality has faded away - that is why they cannot understand, unfortunately. Or perhaps they have a dogmatic interest.
Whatever may be, for all rational Ananda Margiis, the entire matter is crystal-clear- undeniable This quote could not possibly have come from Baba as He Himself never tells anything which runs contrary to Ananda Marga ideology.
About the above bogus quote - pages and pages can be written - but really I think no need. The reasoning is perfectly clear. That Divine Entity which is the Cosmic Nucleus and the shelter of all does not merge into any lesser entity like mission. That just does not happen. The Supreme Shelter does not Himself take shelter in anything else. No way - no how.
Baba says, "He is the supreme shelter of all, yet requires no shelter. It is said,
“Oh Lord, Oh Parama Puruśa, You are in control of all, You are the shelter of all, but You do not require any shelter from anyone.” (Ananda Marga Ideology and Way of Life - 10, Ideation on Brahma)
Namaskar,
Divyamshu
Those who fabricated this quote and wrongly attributed it to Baba seem to have done so under their own separate agenda. Someone should write more about this idea to alert others.
From: Divyamshu DDforBaba@aces...
Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2012 21:11:14
Subject: About That Famous Bogus Quote
Baba
== ABOUT THAT FAMOUS BOGUS QUOTE ==
Namaskar,
One of our main duties as Ananda Margiis is to maintain and present Baba's teaching in an untainted manner to the world and future generations. That means Baba's books and discourses should be clearly and purposefully noted. Side by side, we must also ensure words, phrases, and teachings are not wrongly attributed to Him. That is equally important.
At present, there is one infamous line that is wrongly attributed to Baba that some still remain confused about - here is that statement:
"I am not this physical body, this physical body is not me. If you want to know me, work for my mission, because I have merged myself with my mission."
As we know, all of Baba's statements and teachings are logical and rational. Thus, if the above line is truly Baba's guideline then it should stand up to the test of reason and rationality.
THE FIRST PART OF THE BOGUS QUOTE
Let's evaluate this so-called Baba quote step by step. Here is the first part:
"I am not this physical body, this physical body is not me."
As we know, Baba is Parama Purusa Himself and He is not limited to His physical body. So this initial statement is proper; it parallels Baba's teaching from point #1a of Caryacarya part 2:
"The one formless, beginningless and infinite Parama Brahma (Supreme Consciousness) is the only entity to be attained by living beings – That alone is Jagat Guru (the Supreme preceptor), That alone has revealed Brahmavidyá (intuitional science) to us through the medium of the name and form of Anandamúrtijii. Unit beings must be made to appreciate Its majesty." (Caryacarya - 2, Sadhana, pt #1a)
Plus, when acaryas teach dhyana to any sadhaka and guide them to ideate on the form of Guru then it is expressed that this image is not the image of Purna Brahma (Full Brahma); rather by this limited form which Guru has taken, the sadhaka reaches to Purna Brahma.
So up until this point the quote is ok ("I am not this physical body, this physical body is not me") as it is consistent with Ananda Marga teachings.
THE SECOND PART OF THE BOGUS QUOTE
It is this next part that is of such a dubious nature:
"If you want to know me, work for my mission, because I have merged myself with my mission."
This part of the quote proclaims that the Cosmic Entity Baba (Ista) has merged Himself into yet another lesser entity - i.e. mission.
Here we have to remember that all beings emanate from the Cosmic Entity (Ista) - so Ista is the Hub of the entire cosmological order. Thus, there is nothing greater or bigger than Ista because that Ista is Purusottoma or the Cosmic Hub. So it is impossible for that infinite, Divine Hub to wholly merge into yet another hub. This is a false and ludicrous notion to think that the Cosmic Entity is merging into something else which has been created by Him.
Here again we can think:
Parama Purusa is the Supreme Nucleus and all the jiivas are ultimately merging into Him. He is the Hub & He is infinite. So when He is that Universal Hub and the final abode of all unit beings, then how is He going to merge into something else that is smaller which He Himself created, i.e. mission. Parama Purusa is infinite so how can He merge in that which is finite (mission). This is a totally illogical notion that goes 100% against Baba's teachings on brahmacakra, or the cycle of creation. Brahma is the Ultimate Entity and does not merge into something else. Ista does not merge into adarsha; rather, Ista is the creator of adarsha.
FOR RATIONAL MARGIIS THE POINT IS CLEAR
All Ananda Margiis are open-minded because of sincere sadhana practices. Those attached with this so-called quote, and continue to attribute it to Baba, have a closed mind. Their sense of rationality has faded away - that is why they cannot understand, unfortunately. Or perhaps they have a dogmatic interest.
Whatever may be, for all rational Ananda Margiis, the entire matter is crystal-clear- undeniable This quote could not possibly have come from Baba as He Himself never tells anything which runs contrary to Ananda Marga ideology.
About the above bogus quote - pages and pages can be written - but really I think no need. The reasoning is perfectly clear. That Divine Entity which is the Cosmic Nucleus and the shelter of all does not merge into any lesser entity like mission. That just does not happen. The Supreme Shelter does not Himself take shelter in anything else. No way - no how.
Baba says, "He is the supreme shelter of all, yet requires no shelter. It is said,
Prabhumishamaniishamasheságuńam
guńahiinamaheshaganavaranám.
“Oh Lord, Oh Parama Puruśa, You are in control of all, You are the shelter of all, but You do not require any shelter from anyone.” (Ananda Marga Ideology and Way of Life - 10, Ideation on Brahma)
Namaskar,
Divyamshu
Note 1: WHY THEY MADE THIS QUOTE
Those who fabricated this quote and wrongly attributed it to Baba seem to have done so under their own separate agenda. Someone should write more about this idea to alert others.
PRABHAT SAMGIITA
PS Intro: In this following song the devotee is expressing His inner
heart to Baba in an indirect manner.
"A'j saka'le ghum bha'una'le, ke tumi priyo cinmay, Abhinava tumi abhinava..." (P.S. 4651)
Purport:
O' the Divine Entity, who are You who is so effulgent and charming. In the very early dawn, You have come and awakened me this morning. Who are You who is so sweet and benevolent.
By Your own efforts, You have graciously opened my doors of bondage and removed all the attachments from my mind. O' Divine Entity, You have made me Yours. Who are You who is so beautiful.
Since You came in my life, everything has taken on a new colour. The Controller of the operative principle has Himself taken advent - in the most colourful rainbow form.
O' Divine Entity, You have coloured my mind; You are the brightest jewel. With Your divine Presence You have vibrated all the lokas. The most effulgent Divine Entity has come and made my life colorful...
"A'j saka'le ghum bha'una'le, ke tumi priyo cinmay, Abhinava tumi abhinava..." (P.S. 4651)
Purport:
O' the Divine Entity, who are You who is so effulgent and charming. In the very early dawn, You have come and awakened me this morning. Who are You who is so sweet and benevolent.
By Your own efforts, You have graciously opened my doors of bondage and removed all the attachments from my mind. O' Divine Entity, You have made me Yours. Who are You who is so beautiful.
Since You came in my life, everything has taken on a new colour. The Controller of the operative principle has Himself taken advent - in the most colourful rainbow form.
O' Divine Entity, You have coloured my mind; You are the brightest jewel. With Your divine Presence You have vibrated all the lokas. The most effulgent Divine Entity has come and made my life colorful...
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