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Afghanistan & Lord Krsna Story
Date: 14 April 2009
From: "Parashram Laghate"
To: am-global@earthlink.net
Subject: Afghanistan & Lord Krsna Story
Baba
"Toma'r a'ma'r bha'loba'sa' keu va ja'ne, keu ja'ne na'..." (P.S. 1423)
Purport:
Baba, You love me and I love You. This very fact is not commonly known.
Baba, about my and Your love, a few may recognise but many not. Some
believe that love between the unit and the vast is indeed possible, but
some do not believe this eternal truth.
When the garland is prepared with only an insignificant thread, some
think that it is just a collection of flowers. While others can understand
that this garland represents the very sweet feeling and deep loving
relation for Whom it is made.
Nobody cares to recognize that on even small dew drops the whole sun is
reflecting. In a similar way, the unit carries a deep loving relation with
Parama Purusa. And in its little heart, Parama Purusa remains close by.
How much energy one little molecule can assimilate, the ordinary
intellect does not realise-- nay cannot recognise. The little flower which
is dancing keeping the nectar in its heart, that is the entire sweetness of
the flower and its meaningful existence. In the same way, the beauty of
human beings is to carry the loving feeling for Parama Purusa in their
heart. That is the Goal of life. And then life becomes successful...
== AFGHANISTAN & LORD KRSNA STORY ==
Namaskar,
The name Ka'ndha'har came from Ga'ndha'har, and the Lady Gandharii who
married the King of Delhi King is named after her homeland.
But this story does not end here...
PARAMA PURUSA COMES WITH A PURPOSE
Taraka Brahma - the Parama Purusa incarnate - comes onto this earth with
a mission and everything He does is perfectly logical and clear. Everything
happens with intention and can all be clearly explained - lest one has not
the ears or mind to understand.
Not long ago, one avadhuta grosssly misunderstood Lord Krsna's liila and this
avadhuta wrongly explained about it to all. The avadhuta's misunderstanding about
Lord Krsna is similar to his and his group's misunderstanding about Baba today.
They think that Baba loves the Bengali samaj (Amra Bengali) the most.
But this is just not true. Baba loves all samajas equally. Every bhakta
surely understands this:
http://am-global-01.blogspot.com/2007/07/bengal-is-my-land.html
http://am-global-01.blogspot.com/2007/11/our-samaj-songs.html
http://am-global-01.blogspot.com/2004/03/which-samaj-is-great.html
ALL HAVE THE RIGHT BUT...
Every disciple of Baba has the right to propagate His teachings. But
sometimes we see in our practical life that certain persons come forward to
talk about Baba's teachings and in place of saying something meaningful
they just create problems and confusion. And they pollute others' minds by
their dogmatic junk, garbage, and silly beliefs. And on the top while doing
this nonsense, they also project the false notion that these garbage things
are Baba's ideas. In such a situation if readers are not aware about Baba's
direct teachings from the books, then in their innocence they may start
believing those wrong ideas and get misguided.
Some time back in one email forum such an incident happened. The writer is
one senior Avadhuta who was using the example of the Gandharii and Krsna
dialogue (See Note 1).
And in so doing this Avadhuta propagated his own negative idea in the name
of Baba.
In this peculiar situation who can think that keeping quiet is good. Rather
to protect Baba's legacy, it should be accurately put forth what Baba has
actually written in His book about this Gandharii and Lord Krsna dialogue.
THE MISUNDERSTANDING
The point of the current controversy is this. Avadhutaji wrote that Lord
Krsna became speechless after listening Gandharii's question / accusation.
As if, Lord Krsna did not have any answer to reply to Gandharii on the
point of Mahbharata war. (See Note 2)
But the fact is completely different. Lord Krsna had the answer but due to
the nature of the circumstances He felt it was not appropriate to say
anything. Means, the situation was not proper so Lord Krsna thought that
keeping quiet on the matter is better. This is what has been divulged by
Baba Himself and it is printed in the the book, 'Discourses on the
Mahabharata'.
For those who have gone through Baba's book, it is well known for them.
Please read as follows. The dialogue between Lord Krsna and Gandharii
begins like this.
Baba writes: "Krsna consoled Gandharii and said, "Why do you weep? This is
the way of the world - you will also depart some day. Why do you weep
then?" Addressing Krsna, Gandharii said, "Krsna, why do you console me? It
does not befit you." Krsna asked, "'Why?" Gandharii replied, "If you had
not planned it, all my sons would not have been killed." Krsna replied,
"The war was inevitable for the preservation of righteousness and the
destruction of Papa. What could I have done, I am only an instrument."
(Discourses on the Mahabharata, p. 53)
THE CRITICAL POINT
Now here comes the critical section where Lord Krsna opts not to give a
reply even though in HIS own mind the answer is crystal clear.
Baba continues, "To this Gandharii said, "Krsna, you are Taraka Brahma. If
you had wanted, you would have changed their minds without a fight." It was
a fact. But Krsna had to put an example before the world. Papa is defeated.
Let there be a fight. Let the world see and take a lesson. If it had been
done without a fight, the world would not have received the lesson. Krsna
did not speak, though logic was on His side. There are numerous instances
in one's life where one's ideas are correct, but one has to keep quiet.
Lord Krsna was put in that state." (Discourses on the Mahabharata, p. 53)
So by the above Baba's discourse, it is proved that Lord Krsna had His own
logical reply but He opted not to vocalize it due to the nature of the
circumstance. That is Baba's perfect and pointed explanation of the scene.
Unfortunately in that e-mail forum our Avadhuta Dada gave an interpretation
that was directly opposite to Baba's explanation.
By this way it is clear that our Avadhuta Dadaji is far, far off the mark.
Just like he and his corhorts are incorrect in the faulty understanding about
Baba's samaj theory. Baba loves all samajas equally but they got it in
their pea-sized brain that Baba loves Bengal best - such is their dogmatic
misunderstanding.
Here again are those important letters about samaj.
http://am-global-01.blogspot.com/2007/07/bengal-is-my-land.html
http://am-global-01.blogspot.com/2007/11/our-samaj-songs.html
http://am-global-01.blogspot.com/2004/03/which-samaj-is-great.html
BABA'S WARNING
Here then in this following guideline Baba warns us in clear-cut, language
to beware of those unqualified persons who try to interpret the scriptures
with their limited knowledge. Because such persons always come up with the
wrong answer due to their own narrow minded ideas and extreme
misunderstanding. Such persons will always misguide the society.
BABA says, "The scriptures should always be interpreted by qualified
scholars, competent philosophers, and penetrating thinkers. If one tries to
interpret a profound scripture with superficial knowledge, the interpreter
appears ridiculous and the audience is confused."
"There are some people who are neither scholars, nor philosophers,
nor penetrating thinkers, but merely wander about interpreting scriptures
as a means of livelihood. They utterly fail to present the proper matter in
the correct perspective before the audience...[and] do more harm than good
to the society."
"[They] interpret the scriptures just to exhibit their intellect--to
procure for themselves a certificate of erudition. They remain far from
the living spirit of the scriptures." (NSS)
Namaskar,
Parashram
Note 1: 'Gandharii and Krsna Dialogue': For those newer margiis who may not
be aware, Gandharii was the mother of Duryodhana and directly after the
Mahabharata battle in which all her sons got killed, she engaged in one
famous dialogue with Lord Krsna. More is told about this dialogue
throughout this entire e-mail.
Note 2: In his letter this Avadhuta falsely wrote:
"Krsna had no answer when His devotee Gandhari (mother of Kaoravas) asked
Krsna - why He made her children follow Adharma and got them
killed?"..."Krsna had no answer....Krsna could not reply..."
End of the writing of Avadhutaji.
Note 3: Avadhutaji also wrongly told that Gandharii was a great devotee.
But everyone knows that those who are really great devotees, they do not
argue unnecessarily with their Ista. Rather they want to do each and
everything to fulfill and satisfy the desire of Ista. That is called
Ista-nista. So can you believe that a great devotee would curse the Lord.
And it is commonly know that Gandharii cursed Lord Krsna. So Gandharii has
her own agenda. She dos not like to move according to the great plan of
Lord Krsna. So those who have a little sense about the standard of
devotion, they know that Gandharii was not a great devotee. Rather she was
just trying to make her first steps in the field of devotion. That is why
she was following simple morality, not even satya. So in those old days
Lord Krsna appreciated her to some limited degree because in certain ways
she was better than the evil-minded Duryodhana at least. But still we
cannot call Gandharii as a great devotee; otherwise it will be injustice.
Because how we can call a person a great devotee when that person has the
strong desire to curse Ista. Is it not like that?
Note 4: Baba is very strict that we should (a) either lead people ahead in
the right direction. Or (b) if someone is unable to properly teach others
then at least they should keep mum instead of harming the society by giving
faulty and useless advice.
Baba warns us, "If one is not able to give the people proper guidance, then
at least one should not misguide them. One must not divert them from the
proper path." (NSS)
Note 5: Here below Baba is directing us that to develop a strong, clean
society it is important to step forward and point out others when they do
wrong.
Baba says, "From both the social and human standpoint, all have the right
to take corrective measures against everybody else. This, in fact, is
everyone's birthright. No logician can dispute the right of others in
society to correct the short-comings of those who come in contact with them
for one reason or other. The recognition of this right is unavoidable for
the healthy well-being of society." (HS-1, p. 59)
Note 6: The Avadhuta Dada being referred to in this whole letter is Dada
Kalyaneshvaranandaji. No doubt for a long time he was the AM Engineering
College Principal in Ananda Nagar. But on this point of scriptural
interpretation he is seriously confused, jaded by his B group interest.
*************************************************
- The Solution -
Baba says, "Whenever there is a conflict between the brain and the heart,
intelligent people should respond to the call of the heart. The books in
A'nanda Ma'rga philosophy are all absolute knowledge. The proper mark of
identity of absolute knowledge is that it must be universal, rational and
psychological. Certain instances of absolute knowledge are as follows --the
goal of human life is the attainment of Brahma; human beings are the
progeny of Parama Purus'a...by dint of sa'dhana' or spiritual practices
human beings gradually become divine." (PNS-18, p.10)
*************************************************
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Being silent is a common form of disapproval as I understand it. Though I can't say if it is very affective for very many circumstances.
ReplyDeleteHowever, I don't believe Gandharii cursed Lord Krsna. I believe Gandharii cursed all women there after. Well, maybe cursing Lord Krsna is also cursing all women...
It is a fact that even today women in Afghanistan are being stoned in public for protesting against a Law that allows their husbands to force them into sexual intercourse every 4 days. India is not so far from Afghanistan... At least we don't have those problems in the West...
hello Anonymous,
ReplyDeleteThanks for your thoughts...
The main component of the letter is that Krsna was not without a reply. He had a reply, but chose not to share it. The point being that Parama Purusa always has a logical plan. It is not that Krsna was "caught" without an answer.
So here the whole point is supporting the omniscient nature of Parama Purusa. Whereas one Avadhuta was writing as if Krsna really had no idea about how to address the matter.
Krsna HAD the answer, but chose not to speak. That is Baba's teaching.
Try and re-read the letter in this light.
Jaganath