Baba is Talking about Ananda Marga

To: AM-GLOBAL Subject: Baba is Talking about Ananda Marga Date: Thu 28 Feb 2008 23:29:36 +0500 (IST) From: Ram Sahay Kulshresth Baba "A'jake sa'njhe madhur sa'jhe ke else go, ke ele..." (P.S. 5006) Purport: In this sweet and intoxicated evening, Who has come, Who has come? Who is that Entity Who has created this new wave in everyone's life and in everyone's heart. Those who are sitting with their doors and windows closed, please come out and forget about the differences of own and other. That divine Entity Who is always sitting in the mind, He has come in front of us. We should enjoy His august arrival all together...

BABA IS TALKING ABOUT ANANDA MARGA: THE PARAGRAPH FROM THE AM REVOLUTION DISCOURSE IS ABOUT OUR SANNYASIS

Namaskar, Here is the logical and rational reply to those few Dadas who falsely claim that in the AM Revolution discourse when Baba uses the term "sannyasis" then He is referring to those wandering Indian sadhus-- since this AM Revolution discourse (1957) was given 5 years before the introduction of the AM sannyasis order. It has become the fashion of the day for some Dadas to give this tricky logic in order to discredit that passage about margii rights, but here is the clear-cut reply to their tainted claim. We know that Baba is the Taraka Brahma who is all-knowing-- having perfect knowledge of past, present, and future. So Baba's idea of introducing renunciates and wholetimers into the AMPS structure in 1962 did not come 'out of blue' or 'out of thin air'. Rather it was an inherent part of Baba's long-term plan and strategy from the very beginning. As we know, and in many places and in different books it has been written that Baba planned and made the program for all the projects of AM when He was in His early childhood, i.e. when He was still a small boy. Indeed the Holy Advent of Parama Purusa is not just a coincidence. He comes on this earth with a definite mission, plan, and program. That is why His teaching and ideas are always clear, consistent, and conclusive. His is unlike the human thought pattern which is always changing. If anybody does not like to believe or understand this fact then they will do more harm than good to AM society. Especially in the understanding and preaching of Baba's ideology. So those who are telling that in the Tattvika Praveshika book, the term "sannyasis" has been used to refer to those Indian monks who are begging in the street, such persons lack the devotional feeling to understand that at that point in 1957 Baba already had mapped out & planned His entire AM mission. Such persons do not understand that in 1957 Baba knew that in 1962 He would create the WT order. This was all part of His pre-planned approach. But they think that the "sannayasis" term put forth in 1957 must refer to Indian sadhus because Baba had no idea that in a few years He Himself would start His own sannyasis order in AM. Such persons making their concocted claim do not have faith and regard for Baba's teaching and they also do not believe in their heart that Baba is Parama Purusa and HIS teaching is eternal. Think of it this way. Baba gives many things for the near and distant future which may not be understood today. But those teachings will be well-utilized & understood tomorrow. In that case then Baba is giving the future plan. For example in so many places Baba has told that 'the crimson dawn is knocking at your door'. And suppose He told this very thing in 1970 when so many problems were happening and now 37 yrs passed. So those who are foolish people may claim that Baba was wrong that time. But intelligent people know that Baba's teachings have eternal meaning, and that in His mind's eye He knows full well what is going to transpire. Thus all His teachings have relevance to and incorporate future events. Here is further explanation. Those who have just a little knowledge or lack a deeper understanding might claim that Baba first started talking about Prout in 1959 when the theory was first named in Idea and Ideology etc. But when rational people think in the proper way then they can see that since the very beginning Baba started talking about Prout. No doubt Prout was officially introduced in 1959. But that does not mean that from 1955-59 Baba kept silent on socio-economic problems. And then out of nowhere one day in 1959 Baba started talking about Prout. It is not like that. Because just see, the discourse 'The Evolution of Society' was given by Baba in 1955 and was first published in Subhasita Samgraha part I. But now all are aware that this very same discourse is part of His Prout discourses, published in the book PNS-1. Then who can claim this is not a Prout discourse because it was given prior to 1959 when Prout was formally introduced. Now let us look at another example. One very old book is 'A Guide to Human Conduct'. These discourses were first given in the very beginning of AM, around 1957. Yet the chapters about 'Satya' & 'Ahimsa' from that book also got included in the Prout Nutshell series-- PNS part 11. So once again can we say that Baba had know plan about Prout prior to 1959. Sure He did. He knows everything. It is all within His divine planning. The main point is that here we should also not forget that Baba does not deliver His discourses with any type of common human intellect etc. He Himself is knowledge Personified; He is that Cosmic Mind and all knowledge has its abode in Him. That is why it is said that His teaching are permanent eternal truth-- Apta Vakya, unchangeable, non-decaying. Baba says, "A'pta va'kya comes directly from the Supreme...that [a'pta va'kya] knowledge is true and beneficial for all people in all ages and in all countries. ...The books in A'nanda Ma'rga philosophy are all A'pta va'kya." (APH-4) So when Baba's teaching is eternal and when in 1957 Baba talked about sannyasis and monks in His 'Ananda Marga: A Revolution' discourse, that gives the idea and foreshadows His future plan and program to create a system of sannyasis within AM. This is how rational Ananda Margiis view the matter. Thus there is no question then that in 1957 Baba used the term "sannyasis" for Indian beggar type of monks or wandering sadhus etc. This type of logic has no base and goes against the divine system of Parama Purusa. When Baba put forth the term "sannyasis" in 1957, He was clearly talking about the sannyasis order which He Himself already had the plan to create. And that He did in 1962. The teaching foreshadows the coming event. This is the working style of Parama Purusa and those who are not swayed by their own agenda and those with the requisite devotion easily understand this truth.

TWO KEY POINTS

To continue with the essence of the discussion at hand, we can say that there are two key points surrounding the AM: A Revolution discourse. (1) In this discourse & in the paragraph about margiis rights Baba is referring to our AM way of life-- not any other. (2) Baba's original paragraph about margii rights should remain in tact & in its entirety. Both of these above points are deeply related with the health and well-being of our Marga. So in step-wise fashion we will go through both of these points. In reality the whole situation is quite straight-forward, but in their crazed-delirium a few Dadas are trying to tear down Baba's scripture by objecting to both of the above points. And to achieve their desired goal, such Dadas are throwing sand in the eyes of margiis-- both on the email and in their face to face interactions.

POINT #1: BABA'S DISCOURSE IS ABOUT OUR AM SOCIETY

In His historic 'Ananda Marga: A Revolution' discourse, Baba is outlining life in Ananda Marga. This is evidenced by the title itself and as well as innumerable references throughout the discourse. Thus in this discourse He is not laying down the tenets of Hindu society or Christian society or traditional Indian society or any other society. He is talking about our AM society. And that is marked by the title of the discourse itself: "Ananda Marga: A Revolution". It follows therefore that in the above noted paragraph about margii rights when Baba mentions the term "family people" He is referring to family margiis and when He uses the term "sannyasis" He is talking about our Dadas and Didis. That is to say, that paragraph is about our AM society. Indeed who can claim otherwise. Because in that paragraph itself Baba Himself uses the name "Ananda Marga" or "Our Marga" three times-- in that paragraph alone. Plus that paragraph about margii rights is part and parcel of the greater discourse titled, "Ananda Marga: Revolution". So by all this it is quite obvious that Baba is talking about our AM society. Because we all know that Baba's teachings are clear and pointed-- what He says He means. Baba says, "I keep no ambiguity, I am clear, concrete, conclusive. My philosophy is a complete philosophy, a complete way of life. I am complete in myself...I am like an arrow-- clear, pointed." (Supreme Expression) Thus when Baba Himself says "Ananda Marga", He means Ananda Marga and not any other marga and not any other path. He is talking about our very own Ananda Marga-- the one which He Himself has given. Without an iota of doubt, it is 100% certain that in His below statement from the famous paragraph about margiis rights in His AM Revolution discourse, Baba is talking about our very own AM society-- not any other society.

"A family person therefore deserves more respect than a sannyasi, according to the trend of thought in Ananda Marga." (PNS-11)

So when the above clearly refers to our AM society then obviously the phrase "family persons" refers to 'family margiis' and the term "sannyasis" refers to our 'wholetimers'. This is clear as day. But some Dadas, in order to discredit Baba's teaching about margii rights are foolishly trying to make the claim that in the above statement Baba is talking about the wandering sannyasis of India. They are making the crazy justification that the "sannyasis" term refers to those begging sadhus in the streets of Rishikesh etc. But such a claim is totally preposterous.

POINT #2: BABA'S ORIGINAL PARAGRAPH MUST BE PRESERVED

Here is the original paragraph about margiis rights from Baba's historic 'Ananda Marga: A Revolution' discourse. Baba says, "Ananda Marga does not discriminate between a family person and a sannyasi (renunciate). The place given to a family person in our Marga is greater than the place given to a sannyasi, based on the reason that the former is not dependent on anyone for his or her maintenance, while the sannyasi has to depend on others. A family person is like a strong tree which is self-supporting, while the sannyasi is like the vine which twines around the tree for its support. A family person therefore deserves more respect than a sannyasi, according to the trend of thought in Ananda Marga. This itself is a revolutionary idea. No philosopher or thinker, whether eastern or western, had ever dared to declare a family person as deserving more respect than a hermit or a sannyasi. It needed the courage of a revolutionary to say so." (PNS-11, p.7) So in His above discourse Baba is clearly giving a family people a special place in society. Of course this does not discredit the value of our AM sannyasis; but in clear-cut, undeniable, pointed fashion Baba is outrightly giving family people their deserved and respected stature. That is His point. And Baba has personally placed this discourse 'AM: A Revolution' in multiple AM books. In total this complete discourse appears in six (6) publications related with our Ananda Marga scripture: (a) The original book, "Tattvika Praveshika" (1957). (b) Prout Nutshell, part 11, p.1 (Dec 1987) 1st edition; (c) AM Philosophy in a Nutshell, part 3, p.165 in (Mar 1988) 1st edition; (d) A Few Problems Solved, part 7, p.1 in (Jan 1988) 1st edition; (e) Seminar Notes of January 1993; (f) Cosmic Society 75th anniversary Edition (1996). By the above it is quite clear that this 'Ananad Marga: A Revolution' discourse holds special value and worth, otherwise what was the need for Taraka Brahma to include it in multiple books. No doubt all His discourses hold special import but when Sadguru Himself incorporates a discourse in numerous publications then obviously such a discourse deserves our special attention. And of course the central point is that all Baba's original discourses should be kept in their entirety. He is the Taraka Brahma, He has put forth the teachings of Ananda Marga, and all His guidelines are apta vakya (eternal truth). In that case who can claim the right to permanently delete the above paragraph about margii rights from the shastra (scripture) of Ananda Marga. Absolutely no one-- and if anyone tries to delete it then it means they have their own nasty agenda in mind. Such persons are not the well-wishers of Ananda Marga, irregardless of what fancy justifications they might give for deleting Baba's historic words. So this first point is quite clear: The 'Ananda Marga: A Revolution' discourse must be kept in its entirety. Now here comes the second point.

IT IS JUST LIKE...

If anyone makes the ridiculous claim that the "sannyasis" word from that discourse refers to those itinerant monks of India then it is just like... ...Saying that the Ku Klux Klan in the USA is against the Germans when in reality everyone knows that the racist Ku Klux Klan (KKK) is against blacks. So only stupid or misinformed people will get befooled by the ridiculous claim that the KKK is aimed against Germans. ...Or it is just like saying that a veil or burka that covers the female body is the creation of the retail or packing industry. If anyone says like that then who is going to believe it-- nobody. Because all are aware that the dogmatic Muslim religion is responsible for the creation of the burka or veil that covers females from head to toe. Those only stupid people will be tricked into thinking that it comes from the retail or packing industry. ...Or it is just like the old mythological story about the monkey god Hanuman. One day Hanuman was hungry and he could not find any fruit to eat. But when he saw the sun in the sky then he thought that was a piece of fruit. So the fictional monkey god Hanuman jumped up and ate the sun. This is all recorded in the story-- Hanuman Chalisa'. So this is just one outrageous mythological tale that no one is going to believe in this modern era. But in the days of old the simple, naive people took this to be fact. But now who can think such things-- no one.

JUST A BASELESS CLAIM

Here the whole point is that the ridiculous claim that Baba's term "sannyasis" from the AM Revolution discourse refers to traditional Indian monks outside AM is totally baseless. In this modern era where rationality and reasoning take precedence nobody is going to get befooled by this empty and slanted agenda. No margii will be swayed by such a ludicrous justification. Because all rationality and reasoning dictates that in His discourse "Ananda Marga: A Revolution" Baba is explicitly talking about Ananda Marga-- our own AM way of life. The point is clear and self-evident. And even more specifically when Baba states the following He is clearly referring to our AM society.

"A family person therefore deserves more respect than a sannyasi, according to the trend of thought in Ananda Marga." (PNS-11)

The above is Baba's recorded statement. And by the phrase, "according to the trend of thought in Ananda Marga", it is an obvious indication that He is talking about our AM. Indeed the whole thing is an open and shut case for anyone who has the least bit of oxygen in their brain. How then is it possible for one to claim that the above quote is referring to a different sannyasis order outside Ananda Marga. Never, it is not possible nor is it supported by logic and reasoning. Thus if any Dada for selfish purposes tries to make the false claim that the term "sannyasis" from the historic paragraph about margii rights refers to 'wandering Indian sadhus' then no margii is going to be confused. Rather all will immediately recognise that that Dada is just one deceitful and manipulative fake who is guided by his own agenda and is outrightly going against the word and spirit of Baba's holy and universal teachings.

BABA'S TEACHINGS NOT SUBJECTED TO INDIVIDUAL WHIM

Once again the whole underlying message is the point of scripture. As Ananda Margiis and as disciples of Baba it is our sacred duty to keep all Baba's things as is-- unchanged, unaltered. If we do nothing else in this life we are to keep His divine teachings preserved and in proper form for the future humanity. Failing that we will be blamed and damned by the future society-- and rightfully so. Thus when with their own whim this or that Dada starts making the false claim that the paragraph about margii rights in AM Revolution refers to traditional Indian sadhus or when they say that the entire paragraph should be deleted, then we should not have an ounce of trust in them. Because after all these are the same Dadas who have done untold harm in the past. Since 1990 our various groupist Dadas have invented the dogmatic Mahaprayan program, they have created various dogmatic tiirthas, they have broken down the Bhukti Pradhan system, and so many treacherous and hateful plans they have executed. Of course not all Dadas come in this category. There are countless Wts in our Marga who are working tirelessly for the success of Baba's mission. This we have all seen. But when veritable agents of Sarvatmananda like Pranavatmakananda or when the agents of Rudrananda or when the agents of EC make the claim that the paragraph from the "Ananda Marga: A Revolution" discourse about margii rights should be deleted, then we know this is nothing but their whim-- their own personal agenda, nothing more. And when they say that it just refers to Indian sadhus once again we know this is just their own crafty game-plan to shut the mouths of margiis. So again the overriding point is that we must safeguard all of Baba's scripture, including the historic paragraph about margii rights from the 'Ananda Marga: A Revolution' discourse.

BABA'S WARNING: SCRIPTURE MUST NOT BE ALTERED

Here below Baba is warning us what happens when a scripture (shastra) is not properly preserved and kept in tact.

Sha'sana't ta'rayet yastu sah sha'strah parikiirttitah

Baba says, "Each and every structure should have a controlling force [shastra], for in the absence of that controlling force, the different parts of that structure dissociate from the parent body, and this erosion ultimately results in its destruction." (NSS, Disc 14) Thus when the integrity of the shastra is distorted then the society is doomed. This is Baba's strict warning. That is why Baba has declared to keep AM scripture pristine. Baba says, "The scriptures containing spiritual injunctions must be totally flawless.... (NSS, Disc: 14) By all this it is quite clear that we must not allow a few select Dadas to delete or manipulate the meaning of the paragraph about margii rights from the historic 'Ananda Marga: A Revolution' discourse.

BABA'S BLESSING

By Baba's grace we will safeguard the role of both family persons and wts in our AMPS and build up that perfect human society. Baba says, "The glorious role of both the householders and the renunciates will be written in letters of gold. Only by writing such a history will human beings one day prove not only to this world but to the entire universe, that Parama Purus'a was justified in creating human beings." (AFPS-4) Namaskar, Ram Sahay

Note 1: STORY: PRIESTS EAT ALL THE RASAGOLLA

This whole entire manipulation and distortion of Baba's historic 'Ananda Marga: A Revolution' discourse is nothing but the selfish dealing of a few power-hungry Dadas. It just how once upon a time there was one feast which was attended by a whole village including the priests. And the greedy priests did not want others to have any sweets. So when the rasagolla was being served then the head priest yelled, 'There is a crow flying in the sky, everyone must run and catch it'. And after hearing the priest say this, then all the villagers left their seats to go capture the crow. In that moment, the priests devoured all the rasagolla. And when the naive villagers returned they were asking one another about the sweets, but all they could do was look at one another shake their heads and say that all the rasagolla is gone. If we are not careful the same thing is going to happen with margii rights.

Note 2: VARIOUS MYTHS AND JUSTIFICATIONS

Ever since the matter about the paragraph about the AM Revolutions discourse was raised by conscientious margiis then various top Dadas created their myths to delete and manipulate the meaning of the passage. At first they were stating that "Pranavatmakananda combed the archives" and came up with the "real versions" of the discourse and for this reason they were deleting the paragraph from Baba's books. This was their on-going justification that Pranavatmakananda found magazines and on that basis He was altering Baba's discourse. This was the first myth they concocted. Then more recently they started a second myth. This myth originated from the fertile brain of one Dada sitting in Israel. He "master-minded" the ludicrous logic that the term "sannyasis" refers to those wandering Indian sadhus and not our AM wholetimers. So these are the two leading myths which they are selfishly employing to delete and discredit Baba's holy discourse. All in all such Dadas are no different than the communists or Nazis who would just "boom" their false propaganda again and again until the people believed it as truth. Baba says, "If constant booming is done for something, then people start thinking that there must be some truth in what is being propagated...Communists are doing constant booming about their theory. Due to this people are being brainwashed, and at this stage it is very easy to inject incorrect ideas into their minds. By constant booming of their wrong theory they are creating their supporters." (PNS-15, 'Defects of Communism') So this approach of constant booming, various Dadas are undertaking with regards to the manipulation of the AM Revolution discourse. That is: They have their myths that they just repeat again and again to make their point "true". But ultimately margiis can see through the shams and schemes of such Dadas. With their developed rationality Margiis can see 'what is what' and 'who is who'. All recognise that the original AM Revolution discourse must stand in tact-- whole and that in that discourse Baba is explicitly talking about our AM society.

Note 3: PAST EMAILS: THE 'MYTH' IN ACTION

Here below in his suave manner the trickster Pranavatmakananda (right-hand man of Sarvatmananda) is expertly using & booming one of the myths to his advantage. This he has done numerous times in the past. Below Pranavatmakananda (a.k.a. 'PK Dada' as he is often referred) is falsely claiming that the term "sannaysis" in Baba's original AM Revolution discourse means 'traditional Indian Sadhus' since the discourse was given prior in 1957, prior to the creation of AM wts in 1962. This is his first false justification. But by now we all know the correct response to this false assertion. Namely that Baba's teachings are eternal and apply to future events. Then Pranavatmakananda, in his below cited email, also concocts the outlandish theory that Baba had to change His own discourse after 1962 as if only 5 years after He gave His historic discourse it became outdated since Baba created His own sannyasis order. This second claim by PK Dada is even more stupid and exposes his low devotional standard. Because PK Dada writes as if Baba was clueless about what plan He-- the Taraka Brahma-- was going to execute. As if all of a sudden Baba had to change one of His discourses because it no longer coincided with His planning of AMPS. So PK Dadas whole assertion and myth is ludicrous. Plus on the top Pranavatmakananda's entire thoughtless theory further questions Baba's scripture as being apta vakya or eternal truth. Since PK writes as if Baba's teaching became null and void in 1962-- and that therefore it should be deleted from our AM scripture. Such is the madness of Pranavatmakananda's words. Now see here below what Pranavatmakananda has written on the email just the on past occasions and to this day he has not changed his view, "This article [AM: A Revolution] was dictated by Baba in 1957 i.e. five years before He started the Sannyasi system in 1962. I found several evidences to show that those days He used to attack the traditional Sadhus and sannyasis for their lack of concern for the social problems. It appeared that when He started the WT system and the greater part of the burden of the organisation was on the sannyasis and sannyasinis, He might have thought that these lines needed to be changed." (Pranavatmakananda) The above was all written by PK Dada is his email titled, "How was the article 'Ananda Marga a Revolution' changed?". Can we really trust such a scheming person to be in charge of Baba's holy archive. Can we trust that he will keep it in tact for the humanity. Decide for yourself. Here it also should be known that PK Dada is not only one to subscribe to this faulty way of thinking-- various other Dadas including some from Rudrananda's faction and EC also come in this category. You can recognise them by the words that slip off their tongue and by the phrases they use in their emails. So we should be careful and know who they are lest they create more hell and nuisance in our AM society.

Note 4: WHERE HAS THE PARAGRAPH BEEN DELETED

The paragraph about margii rights from the AM Revolution discourse has already been permanently deleted from the Bengali and Hindi versions of Prout Nutshell-11. Plus that paragraph has been removed from all the most recent versions of The Electronic Edition of Baba's books (English). Thus the stage is set for the final cut. Because at present they are preparing the next printing of the Prout Nutshell series in English and guess what they are going to do--- that's right, they are going to delete the paragraph about margii rights from the PNS English edition. Thereby forever removing Baba's holy teaching from our AM scripture. We must not allow such an event to occur. That would be unforgivable.

Note 5: ANANDA MARGA IS THE KEY FOR THE FUTURE

By Baba's grace we will safeguard the role of both family persons and wts and build up that perfect human society. Baba says, "The glorious role of both the householders and the renunciates will be written in letters of gold. Only by writing such a history will human beings one day prove not only to this world but to the entire universe, that Parama Purus'a was justified in creating human beings." (AFPS-4)

*************************************** Health Guideline: Diet Related

Baba says, "For proper digestion, fill the stomach half-way with food, one quarter with water, and leave one quarter full of air." (CC-3, 'Procedure for Eating') Note: Every conscious margii follows this above point but sometimes for certain people it becomes difficult to follow. Especially at retreats or during feasts this rule is not so strictly followed by some. Whereas in everyday life when they are in their own home this is not a problem. Anyhow, the above guideline given by Revered Baba is highly significant and we should follow it.

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